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1 posted on 06/06/2012 6:15:17 PM PDT by Beave Meister
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uBnlXGvA1Wk


2 posted on 06/06/2012 6:16:50 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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Ping.


3 posted on 06/06/2012 6:18:13 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Beave Meister
Ford has one too

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_37/b4099060491065.htm

4 posted on 06/06/2012 6:19:53 PM PDT by grandpa jones (obama delenda est)
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I wonder if I can do the following:

1-order a car from here for European delivery and import.

2-simply order car here and pickup at factory

3-order the entire engine and screw it into an MPG-challenged vehicle.

5 posted on 06/06/2012 6:21:06 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (In the post-Zimmerman world, it may become prudent to carry a drop weapon if you CCW.)
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To: Beave Meister; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
(Imperial gallon)

We are a People's Republic1 We don't allow IMPERIAL gallons, that's why.

6 posted on 06/06/2012 6:23:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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There is a difference in the gallons in the UK. The UK gallon is 4.546 liters and the US gallon is 3.79 Liters. Since a UK gallon is bigger, please do the math and tell us what’s the REAL MPG in the UK using US gallons because this is misleading.


8 posted on 06/06/2012 6:25:24 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Beave Meister

VW actually manufactured a car, from 1998 to 20005, called the Lupo which gets even better mileage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Lupo

“The Lupo 3L was a special-edition made with the intent of being the world’s first car in series production consuming as little as 3 litres of fuel per 100 kilometres (78 miles per US gallon or 94 miles per Imperial gallon). To achieve this the 3L was significantly changed from the standard Lupo to include:”


11 posted on 06/06/2012 6:29:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Beave Meister

The real reaaon is that it would put GM out of business.


15 posted on 06/06/2012 6:31:42 PM PDT by VA Voter
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When the USEPA wrote the emission laws for 2010 and beyond, they made a conscious decision to try and keep diesels out of light duty vehicles.

The extremely low limits on Nox added major cost to the diesel engine package AND hurt fuel economy.

http://www.factsaboutscr.com/environment/epa2010.aspx


16 posted on 06/06/2012 6:32:23 PM PDT by nascarnation
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The 78.5 MPG is based on imperial gallons.

US gallon is 62 MPG.

Snopes has called this report FALSE anyway.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/passat.asp


17 posted on 06/06/2012 6:32:23 PM PDT by dewawi
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The Geo Metros I rented in the early 90s got over 50 mpg, and that was driving and treating them like a rental. Nothing comes close today.

The administration doesn’t give a hoot about gas mileage. If they got rid of the alcohol requirement (the gas today has double the alcohol content of beer) fuel mileage would jump from 12 to 25% depending on the vehicle.


18 posted on 06/06/2012 6:33:57 PM PDT by wrench
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/passat.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/passat.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/passat.asp

Phony story

Phony story

Phony story

My whole life I have seen these stupid high mileage stories and I am 60 YEARS old. I always thought that some day people would smarten up... I was wrong.


19 posted on 06/06/2012 6:35:24 PM PDT by dewawi
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Obama: “If it isn’t electric, it’s crap!”


25 posted on 06/06/2012 6:47:51 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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save for later


35 posted on 06/06/2012 7:03:17 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/passat.asp


46 posted on 06/06/2012 7:41:29 PM PDT by CaDan
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To: Beave Meister
The American Cancer Society says:

Some of these expert agencies have classified diesel exhaust as to whether it can cause cancer. These classifications are based largely on studies looking at the possible link to lung cancer.

The National Toxicology Program (NTP) is formed from parts of several different US government agencies, including the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The NTP has classified exposure to diesel exhaust particulates as "reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen."

The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) is part of the World Health Organization (WHO). Its major goal is to identify causes of cancer. Based on the available data, IARC classifies diesel engine exhaust as "probably carcinogenic to humans."

The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) maintains the Integrated Risk Information System (IRIS), an electronic database that contains information on human health effects from exposure to various substances in the environment. The EPA classifies diesel exhaust as "likely to be carcinogenic to humans."

The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) is part of the CDC that studies exposures in the workplace. NIOSH has determined that diesel exhaust is a "potential occupational carcinogen."

After reading some of their online material, I doubt that the no-diesel-in-passenger-cars rule is protectionist.

52 posted on 06/06/2012 8:00:34 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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The other piece that’s missing from the picture is that most european cars have very low final drive ratios, in the low 2:1 range. US vehicles have mid 3:1 or higher. This affects mileage significantly, at the expense of off-the-line acceleration. The Passat mentioned here would get lower mileage in the US because US customers would never tolerate the sluggish acceleration of the EU-spec car, and would demand a higher final drive ratio.


54 posted on 06/06/2012 8:04:33 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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Geez - I have an ‘03 Passat wagon - doesn’t get anywhere near 78 MPH.....


64 posted on 06/06/2012 9:04:04 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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The European version of the EPA cheats on mpg figures. They use less realistic methods for calculations.


68 posted on 06/07/2012 2:39:52 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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I would love some of the diesel engines used in Europe. All offer better mileage than similar gas engines, many offer excellent performance, they tend to be reliable, are clean now, and they tend to be torquey. I wish more companies offered them in the US and brought the better ones over. For instance VW has some pretty quick diesels too but sticks us with the 140HP one.


69 posted on 06/07/2012 4:21:39 AM PDT by Woodsman27
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