Posted on 06/05/2012 1:21:45 PM PDT by moonshot925
Enterprise, Hornet and Yorktown are sunk with their 231 aircraft. The Japs take Midway. All 4 Jap CVs are undamaged.
Can the Japanese launch an invasion of Hawaii before the American carriers roll off the line in 1943?
4 Essex class CVs and 5 Independence class CVLs will be in commission by 1 July 1943.
7 Essex class CVs, 9 Independence class CVLs and 19 Casablanca class CVEs in commission by 1 January 1944.
Not only its own garrison - Japan would have to find a way to keep several hundred thousand Hawaiians fed and watered, too. It would've been sheer idiocy to try to take Hawaii.
Do you homework little boy and get back to me. We'll discuss facts then. Your BS is getting old.
I saw the early post on steel production and was curious. Then saw your post and it reminded me of the homework I had originally wanted to do. With no thoughts of protectionism policy, tariffs, etc. Just thinking to myself “I wonder if we could ramp up and have enough steel to fight a war like WW II?”
I found a long article and too complicated for me at this time of night regarding the steel industry and protectionism from the CATO institute:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbp/tbp-004.pdf
From other sources I found American production of steel for some years:
1939: 51.4 million tons
1946: 66.6 million tons
1998: 102 million tons (near peak)
2011: 95.6 million tons
The CATO article goes into worldwide percentages, etc. which may be a more reasonable approach rather than just raw tons produced to understand our position in world steel production.
However, I was surprised that it seems pretty high - at least to my novice eyes. Some of what the CATO report was pointing out that the press, unions, and politicians talk a lot about the loss of jobs in the steel industry (”U.S. Steel lays off another 5000 workers, etc.) - but a lot of that is due to robots and other means of increased productivity.
Anyway - I was encouraged that we still “make stuff” in the U.S. of A.
1940: 37,400,000 MT
2009: 19,000,000 MT
Which shows how pathetic things are, mostly due to outsourcing. We couldn't win a war of attrition.
I’m reminded of Mark Twain’s “Lies, damned lies, and statistics”.
I wonder if the chart from the CATO article is for “finished” steel and your table is for raw pig iron? (I have no idea on the various terminology!) And obviously if we have to import most of the raw material to build a “finished” product (rods, sheets, etc. of steel) we are screwed.
I was looking at the history of the A-bombs. In order to build the reactor at the Hanford Site they needed some huge amount of copper - which we didn’t have at the time.
So they used silver instead - from the U.S. Treasury. 16 tons or something huge. They were able to reclaim most of it, and in 1970 the last little bit was recovered and returned. They were able to recover something like 98% of it.
Holy Smokes, LS...is this for real? I hadn’t heard anything about it...that was another one of your books I really enjoyed.
I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW PUMPED I GOT WATCHING THAT TRAILER!
I swear, I have a huge grin on my face right now. I am so damned sick of what I have been seeing in this country, that...watching that trailer just made me not only forget that crap, it made me remember the journey to get here.
It gave me hope. And not the “changey-hope” either. That is not an insignificant thing these days. THANK YOU.
Any info you can share on it (projected release date, venues, etc) or are you still keeping it under wraps?
Really, I can’t tell you how exciting it is to learn of this.
My wife and I just took two weeks vacation, went to Washington DC, The Capitol, the Library of Congress, The Bureau of Engraving and Printing, The Holocaust Museum, The Spy Musuem, Mount Vernon, The National Museum of The Marine Corps in Quantico, Williamsburg, Yorktown, Norfolk, Appomattox, Shenandoah Mountains, The Madison Home and Gettysburg.
Watching that trailer felt like my vacation in miniature.
Thanks for the picture of the B-36. My dad served as a crew member on one of those big birds in early 50’s(largest bomber ever built). He had a stopover in Midway on TDY Pacific duty around 1952. I have pictures that he took. The beach was still full of debris 10 years after battle. Another picture was aerial view of Midway. Basically the island was so small it only could fit an airfield. He also mentioned the Gooney birds there.
Avast, ping...
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