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To: chatter4

I agree. We seem to have lost that argument long ago.

Mark Levin says Marco Rubio is qualified and his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth. Lots of others agree just being born on US soil is all that is needed.

I think the possibility of going back to the definition you and I believe is not going to happen.


30 posted on 05/31/2012 7:59:33 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: 3D-JOY

“I agree. We seem to have lost that argument long ago.

Mark Levin says Marco Rubio is qualified and his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth. Lots of others agree just being born on US soil is all that is needed.

I think the possibility of going back to the definition you and I believe is not going to happen.”

We haven’t lost the arguement, it’s just that too many have been fed the wrong information. Many think that Rubio’s parents automatically became US citizens when they left Cuba. US law gives them “permanent residency” , but, not citizenship.
Sadly, even the 14th Amendment has been misused to give every citizenship at birth and the clause, “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” has been totally ignored to do that. In the US Supreme Court case Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884)the Court, speaking about the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction” said, “The evident meaning of these last words is, not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.” In the Slaughterhouse Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873), the Court stated, “The phrase, “subject to its jurisdiction” was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.” Sen. John Bingham, the man recognized as being the father of the 14th Amendment, had this to say on the subject of the jurisdiction clause: ”Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”
So, the 14th Amendent was never intended to give US citizenship to everyone born here.


39 posted on 05/31/2012 9:30:51 PM PDT by chatter4
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