iirc, those steel cases are lacquered too and the lacquer can build up in the chamber and cause failure to eject also...
Posted on 05/27/2012 5:48:19 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
iirc, those steel cases are lacquered too and the lacquer can build up in the chamber and cause failure to eject also...
I should probably bring my chronograph with me next time and check the velocity on that Herters. I’ll bet I find some pretty wide swings in min/max.
I should also run a couple boxes through Mrs. L’s Mini 14 for comparison purposes.
They don’t use lacquer any more.
As the article stated, “...it is NOT caused by a “lacquer coating” cooking off and leaving its residue in the chamber. If you don’t believe me, get a spent shell and hit it with a blowtorch. Nothing’s coming off of that sucker. If you’ve bought your ammo in the past few years, it doesn’t even have lacquer on it.”
The older green stuff was lacquer coated. The newer gray stuff isn’t.
Your screen name is hilarious.
Ditttos.
I’ve got a Czech CZ82. Of course it was designed to eat commie bloc steel case ammo.
Thousands of rounds through it and the chamber and barrel look new.
Yeah. Probably several hundred FPS at the extremes. Like I said, it’s just for practice.
I’d be interested in seeing what it would do in a Mini. When I started having problems with steel-cased in my AR, I was tempted to get a Mini, and if I hadn’t discovered the “one round of brass for ten of steel” trick I probably would have.
From what I’ve read, Minis do well with steel cased. If it doesn’t, I’d be interested to see if you have the same results mixing the brass and the steel.
My (borrowed) mid 90’s Norinco SKS is the same way. Looks exactly like it did the day I bought it, with almost zero maintenance.
Sorry, I won’t be loading any AP black tip anytime soon. To each his own, you got the money to spend on commercial ammo, great but us poor folk need to roll our own to have fun plus never needed to call glock for warranty even after 40K rounds of plinking reloads I put through it or Rock River after putting 35K reload rounds. Reloading doesn’t make shooting any cheaper, it just lets you shoot more.
I have thought of a 5.45 x 39 (to take advantage of the super cheap Russian 7n6 surplus) upper, but it is always the same thing; Something has to be modified, like the special magazine, or the spring for the harder primers, and still...
You can get a cheap Saiga in 5.45x39 and a couple cans (with 1080 rounds each) for a lot less than an AR.
I guess I spent too much of my youth trying to get a Ruger Mini-14 to work. Accuracy mods, magazines that didn’t quite work, as well as the malfunctions which never ended.
Finally I just got an AK. It worked.
Then I got an AR, which I love to shoot, and it worked, but I started to have Ruger Mini flashbacks when I used the ammo it wasn’t designed to shoot. If I use brass, it never fails me.
If it gets you out shooting more, then God bless and good luck, and when the US Army starts using steel I may consider it, but I just don’t have time to trouble shoot any more.
I picked up a couple of those little Czech CZ pistols. What a fantastic bargain they are. Well built, reliable, accurate even with that crappy Russian ammo.
They’re in our vehicle “go bags”. They’re also a lot of fun to shoot!
And for only 200 a copy, well you can’t beat that with a stick.
I’ll give it a try and let you know what I find out. Thanks for the post, FL.
I’m not ragging on reloading....I just have enough trouble collecting. My problem is I don’t have enough time to shoot. Until January I was working continually and I’ve had to work half time since then...with that, all the crap I left undone at home for a decade and the time my daughter now demands of ‘retired grandpa’ for her girls, it seems I have less time than before. I’d absolutely love to be able to push 40K rounds through some of my stash.
I have a friend that bought a surplus CZ52 for he and his wife (a pair) to protect themselves in the car....they love them.
Yep.
We’ve got guns twice as expensive as the CZ82. None of them are as accurate or easy to shoot.
I’m not a reloader, although I would like to get into it just for the savings.
But, when I saw this, I thought it was cool as heck.
“How to cast your own jacketed soft-nosed .223 bullets”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAU5ekbPLA
Thanks. I appreciate it and will look into that; Youtube here I come!
I’ve heard nothing but good things about them. Thought about getting one, but I ended up getting a Zastava M88 instead, because 9mm is cheap and easy to find here.
Very accurate and nice to shoot, even with a heavy trigger; compact and flat, with Tokarev internals.
It seems like a nice gun, but it has a nasty case of “hammer follow” that I just can’t seem to iron out. I thought replacing the disconnector and honing the sear would do it, but no dice. As of right now, though, it’s like a single action revolver. You have to pull the hammer back with every shot.
If I can’t get it to work, maybe I’ll trade it for one of those CZ’s instead. I came really close to getting one a few years back and have regretted not buying it ever since.
That’s awesome, never got into casting but have been meaning to give it a try. I want to buy a new aftermarket barrel for my glock and try 45 ACP lead rounds though it. Man there is always 22lr hulls laying everywhere at the range too.
If you were having issues with rounds sticking in the chamber, I’d definitely see if this doesn’t solve the problem.
Like I said, I never would have believed it, because I always heard never to mix steel and brass, but it seemed to work beautifully.
New Lee 223 progressive loadmaster for $200 - $230 if you shop around. The kit comes with full size, powder measure, bullet seat and crimp dies. Ancillaries like bullet puller $14.00, zip trimmer and 223 trim length gauge, pocket reamer and debur tool are fairly cheap too. Case decrimper for military brass is a little steep though for $100.00, I went with dillon. I use a case catcher for my AR so no scrounging for brass on my hands and knees and I use the boys for the pistol brass. The Lee 45 ACP press is the same price and you don’t need all the case prep tools for pistol brass as well.
Happy shooting guys
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