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'Help me,' homeless man begs as cops fatally beat him in videotaped incident
CNN ^ | May 8, 2012 | CNN Wire Staff

Posted on 05/08/2012 11:52:15 AM PDT by Altariel

(CNN) -- A graphic video played at a hearing Monday to determine whether two California police officers should stand trial in the beating death of a homeless man showed them kicking and punching the mentally ill man as he lay on the ground -- screaming in pain and begging for help.

The victim, Kelly Thomas, died five days after the beating on July 5.

Manuel Ramos, a 10-year veteran of the Fullerton, California, police department, is charged with second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter, while Cpl. Jay Patrick Cicinelli faces charges of involuntary manslaughter and felony use of excessive force in the same case.

Both have pleaded not guilty.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: brutality; ca; california; corruption; donutwatch; fullerton; govtabuse; jackbootedthugs; jbt; leo; leojackboots; murder; police; policestate; rapeofliberty
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To: mamelukesabre

Yes. It is. Start at 15:19 and you’ll see it.


21 posted on 05/08/2012 12:57:33 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Find rest, O my soul, in God alone; my hope comes from Him." -Psalm 62:5)
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To: Mich Patriot

Justice would be these cops in prison getting bubba bent daily , but that’s just me.


22 posted on 05/08/2012 1:01:22 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Altariel

Pretty bad when the police dept hires ‘thugs’ for officers.
They can’t subdue this fairly small, thin man without all that violence to him? Very unprofessional!


23 posted on 05/08/2012 1:26:43 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Altariel

That was murder!


24 posted on 05/08/2012 1:52:14 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Altariel

The only difference between criminals and the police is a badge. The only difference between criminals and politicians is a police force.


25 posted on 05/08/2012 2:08:13 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Nice to know that cops can beat someone just because a local business wants them to.
And cops wonder why they are hated and distrusted. I treat cops like I would a wounded, wild animals. Don’t look at it’s face. Keep your head down and avoid at all cost.


26 posted on 05/08/2012 2:17:12 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: christx30

Personally, I’m wondering if the fix is in, with the cops walking away with a slap on the wrist in return for not telling where their orders came from.


27 posted on 05/08/2012 2:25:47 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Altariel

shoot their dogs too


28 posted on 05/08/2012 3:01:48 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Chen Guangcheng: Gutsy call, Obama /UltraMegaDrippingSarc)
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To: Altariel

This was big news here in OC. There should be more charges for the coverup, and not just the FPD.


29 posted on 05/08/2012 3:07:29 PM PDT by TJC (V)
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To: Altariel

How do those cigarettes you exchanged for your vote taste now?


30 posted on 05/08/2012 3:22:46 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate Rinos and Romney is one of the worst Rinos ever!)
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To: Altariel

I used to like cops but no longer.

They have an “us vs them” mentality with the advantage of a badge.

They must re-evaluate their objectives because too many innocents are being killed under the color of the law.


31 posted on 05/08/2012 3:44:31 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate Rinos and Romney is one of the worst Rinos ever!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

You will get no argument from me. This crap happens too often for it to be a random occurance. Either these guys went overboard on their own (which in my world would result in serious jail time), or they were told to crack some heads open (which should result in charges of ordering a hit on a unarmed man). Either way, something is fishy here.
I don’t consider the death of a police officer to be a tragedy. You treat the public like this too many times and people are scared of you. It’s either you or me.


32 posted on 05/08/2012 6:12:32 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: mamelukesabre; Altariel
that video didn’t look that bad to me

Ya don't do ya?

It didn't seem too bad with the video/audio of a young man screaming for his life, screaming he could not breath, begging for mercy, screaming for his Dad to help, who was not even present?

No too bad eh?

Here's the homeless young man, just before he died.

Here's a couple of the murderers, other cops were clearly involved.

Was the young man a mass murderer? International terrorist? Bank robber, hostage taker? Killer, robber, rapist?

No he wasn't.

33 posted on 05/08/2012 6:59:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Personally, I’m wondering if the fix is in, with the cops walking away with a slap on the wrist in return for not telling where their orders came from.

Not gonna happen...This story is too huge down here. These pigs are going down. Several city councilman and the former police chief are going with 'em. And that doesn't even touch the mega-million dollar civil suit that's in progress.

The only real injustice that's going to go by the boards is the officers who just stood around and watched/allowed the beating to occur. They are all pigs, and should wear this around their necks for the rest of their lives.
34 posted on 05/08/2012 7:10:07 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: dragnet2

Two fat kids who got bullied in school all grown up. They will enjoy prison food.


35 posted on 05/08/2012 7:22:34 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

This wasn’t simply a beating, this was clearly murder with intent.


36 posted on 05/08/2012 7:26:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

That shows prior intent, a.k.a - premeditation.


37 posted on 05/08/2012 7:29:33 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: rottndog
Not gonna happen...This story is too huge down here.

No it's not and yes, this a very big story on the west coast.

What this did was expose even more government corruption, and out of control local government law enforcement, who behaved like gangsters.

Thanks to the fact it was caught on tape, there were witnesses and there is a brutally beaten dead body.

38 posted on 05/08/2012 7:33:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rottndog; Bubba Ho-Tep
Not gonna happen...This story is too huge down here.

No it's not and yes, this a very big story on the west coast.

What this did was expose even more government corruption, and out of control local government law enforcement, who behaved like gangsters.

Thanks to the fact it was caught on tape, there were witnesses and there is a brutally beaten dead body.

39 posted on 05/08/2012 7:35:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Where's the outrage?

Not sure where your at, but on the west coast, there is a lot of outrage.

40 posted on 05/08/2012 7:37:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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