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To: rurgan
Keep ignoring the over $3 trillion we manufacture every year

Even if true how long before that 3 trillion goes to China?

Even if true? LOL!

We manufacture more than any other nation. Feel free to prove me wrong. Facts only, your error filled feelings are tiresome.

That is 100 times the increase in imports in about 26 years(extrapolate that to the future).

Go ahead, that will give me something else to mock.

U.S. companies have additional burdens like the EPA, thousands of U.S. government regulations, unions, lawsuits, democrats killing the energy industry like coal, oil etc.

It's true, ridiculous regulations can reduce our manufacturing output if we don't eliminate them. Big government lovers must be kept from the levers of power, especially when they're as bad at math as you.

138 posted on 06/05/2012 5:54:15 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
We manufacture more than any other nation. Feel free to prove me wrong. Facts only, your error filled feelings are tiresome.

Okay lets take raw steel production. China produces 8 times the steel that the U.S. produces and that is in tons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production

Of course this is even worse in electronics. U.S. Electronics sector has been almost all outsourced to china and other places(Especially Consumer electronics like flat screen TVS, ipads, smart phones, kindle and thousands of similar products.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/08/17/why-amazon-cant-make-a-kindle-in-the-usa/

The U.S. has lost the ability to manufacture most of these high tech products. This article is a must read for every American.

Additionally U.S. employment in manufacturing has declined from 17 million to 11 million since 2000. And as the imports from China and other places are increasing at an exponential rate most of the remaining 11 million will be gone soon(China has over 100 million workers in manufacturing but the liberal media says the U.s. is tops ).

Look, the U.S. is in real trouble .If you live here in the U.S. you should be aware and prepare. Obama is borrowing 2 trilion $ per year(so are local,state governments,individuals and businesses). Our total debt is over 45 trilion $ and exploding everywhere . Look at just the federal debt clock(16 trilion and exploding). You really things are ok since as you say we the U.S. produce more than anyone? The government is printing money and creating money out of thin air . There is no one that has all this money they are lending to us that is keeping us afloat. that money is being created out of thin air .Not even china has that money that we are borrowing , even though China produces everything( yeah sure the international socialists say we produce more than china but that is just part of the plan to destroy the U..S. with this free trade). Debt and imports are increasing at an exponential rate. That is not sustainable . We are going down:the question is not if but when, total collapse is the future of the U.S. . Prepare while you can or keep believing we are ok and producing so much.look at the debt clock if you need any more proof.

139 posted on 06/10/2012 1:15:13 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
We manufacture more than any other nation. Feel free to prove me wrong. Facts only, your error filled feelings are tiresome

That might be some statistic touted by the liberal media . But that stat is in inflated, overvalued dollars.China undervalues its currency at least by a factor of 20 times.

As I showed China produces 8 times the steel (in tons).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production But if you show it in dollars the U.S. might produce more in dollars as China does in its currency.

Jobs in U.S. manufacturing are decreasing at exponential rate( look at a graph of manufacturing jobs as a percentage of population now only around 3% of population.No , our productivity is not increasing at this rate even with inflation, much as the liberal media loves to say). But our debt and imports are increasing at exponential rate. That is not sustainable. The only way to prosper is to produce not to borrow to pay for imports. In the U.S. only 3.8% of population are manufacturing jobs and that is rapidly declining http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/09/1215/Chinamanufacturingjobs.html. That is not producing more than anyone.What we are producing is debt and printing money . the Obama democrat is destroying America..

The liberal media and socialists want to destroy the U.S. They are doing it with free trade and illegals.

China produces much more than the U.S. even now it produces almost 50% of the world's steel. This is an excerpt from an article not from me:

http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/09/1215/Chinamanufacturingjobs.html

China Adds Almost As Many Manufacturing Jobs As Exist In The United States

While the United States was losing millions of manufacturing jobs over the past decade, China was gaining many millions more. China's manufacturing employment increased by 10 percent in four years, from 100.9 million workers in 2002 to 112 million in 2006, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). The increase was almost equal to the total number of Americans working in the U.S. manufacturing sector (14 million at the end of 2006, declining to 11.6 million in November, 2009). China has 100 million more people working in its manufacturing sector than does the United States.

The massive growth in manufacturing employment in China counters a myth propagated in America's economic circles that China's manufacturing employment is declining, just as it is in America.

Yet the number of manufacturing workers in China is equal to 33 percent of the U.S. population. By comparison, the 11.7 million U.S. manufacturing workers at the end of November represented an order of magnitude less — 3.8 percent of the U.S. population.

140 posted on 06/10/2012 1:57:35 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
We manufacture more than any other nation. Feel free to prove me wrong. Facts only, your error filled feelings are tiresome

This chart shows that the China manufactures more in U.S. dollars now than the U.S.( if you take into account that china undervalues its currency by at least 20 times then you see why China manufactures 20 times what the U.S. does, 8 x the steel in tons, etc. The U.S. manufactured more steel in tons in 1953. Then we had a large % of the world steel production. now china has 44% of the steel production of the world. china is taking over the world. and even this chart shows that even in U.S. dollars china's manufacturing is skyrocketing.
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http://investing.curiouscatblog.net/2011/12/28/chart-of-manufacturing-output-from-2000-to-2010-by-country/

U.S manufactures 8.9 million cars per year. That is mostly workers screwing on parts made in China . So that is our “production”.

141 posted on 06/10/2012 3:24:15 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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