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To: trailhkr1

Well, I don’t date anymore. Prior to, I have been set up by friends/family. I figured it would be safe since they know the guy.

I was wrong. As of becoming friends first, men in this generation do not want to take the time to do so.

Funny story. I went out to lunch yesterday, BY MYSELF, which I have never done before. I met a man sitting next to me and we just started chatting.

Long story short, after talking to this man (whom I would never think of as my type, my fault), I found him to have values closely related to mine.

He asked for my number so we could go out for lunch/dinner and before I agreed to do so I told him I am available, but celibate. Told him I have no problem to start a friendship; however, he knew exactly where I stood.

I even told him if he was looking for sex, I was not his girl. He laughed, I laughed....and he asked for my number anyway.

Now it could be the “chase” that may excite him, however, I am absolutely concrete in my beliefs.

The reason I decided to exchange numbers with him? He wasn’t trying to pick me up. We just happened to sit next to each other and started yapping.

Any stranger I speak with now a days, I let them know upfront, of course when appropriate, who I am and where I stand.

No way IN HELL would I EVER date a lib. Most men and women, when they first meet talk about themselves.

I go right into my politics. I need to know who you are and where you stand. VERY off putting to a lot of people, but guess what....I don’t give a flyin you know what.


157 posted on 04/21/2012 9:25:54 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone; central_va; Bellflower; Salamander; Shimmer1
Any stranger I speak with now a days, I let them know upfront, of course when appropriate, who I am and where I stand.

No way IN HELL would I EVER date a lib. Most men and women, when they first meet talk about themselves.

I go right into my politics. I need to know who you are and where you stand. VERY off putting to a lot of people, but guess what....I don’t give a flyin you know what. NograyZone:

You are making so many dating mistakes it's frightening.

Why are you even bringing up celibacy or your strict political beliefs in the first date to begin with? What about getting to know the person first and just going out and having fun?

No wonder guys are trying to get in your pants on the first date. You are giving them a challenge as they have already given up on you for dating material based upon your strict demands.

If a woman gave me strict this and that ultimatums in the first date as you are doing I would run like the wind. No man or woman wants to hear that stuff. If you are doing this on the first date they have to wonder what you would be like in a long term relationship.

I wonder how many truly good guys you have scared off over the years.

As for dating a liberal there was a thread on FR 3-4 months back on spouses/marriage and numerous posters said they had liberal spouses and would not trade them for anything the world. I'm not talking about dating a hardcore communist or leftist wackjobs. People have another side to them other than politics. My GF is liberal in some areas but we never discuss politics. We are truly best friends, share the same interest and hobbies. I still get that fuzzy feeling when she walks in the door.I can't imagine not having her in my life.

SRS NGZ,I saw your pics on your homepage carrying that sign. You are attractive. You need to loosen up on this all consuming 24/7 politics in your life.

There is a life out there besides politics. Republicans and democrats will be fighting long after your bones have turned to dust. Life is too short to have anger especially over something to be honest you can't do anything about.

As to your and bellflower belief about fornication do you really think God gives a shiiite if you are in a committed loving relationship? I'm not talking about one night stands or promiscuity..there is a difference. I think God has more concerned and has more important criteria such as how you lead you life, treat others and doing good for your fellow man rather than if you and a life partner shared some intimacy. What about the days before there was even marriage? Yes, marriage is a fairly recent event i human existence. Those people in loving relationships condemned? I don't think so.

As for your comment that men don't want to become friends first that is full of crap. You are the one not allowing them to become a friend. All 3 of my gf's I knew them as friends first before becoming romanticly involved. I worked out with my GF for 2 hours every day and we cooked at night together (another shared interest) for 7-8 months before we became lovers and intimate. I know for a fact my male friends were not getting intimate with their gf's until way into the relationship. Guys talk. Not everyone is having sex early in relationships no matter what popular Hollywood culture is portraying. far from it.

You say you feel freedom with your celibacy stance and not dating. Good for you if you really feel that way. But don't wake up one day down the road full of regret over woulda, shoulda, coulda over some stance that does not mean a shill of beans. Don't let other lonely people drag you down to their level and tell you they don't need anyone. It sucks to be alone.

You will probably not like this advice but it is coming from a guy with no skin in the game-an outsider looking inward.

Srs, go out an enjoy life for while and loosen up.

248 posted on 04/22/2012 11:00:05 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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