Posted on 04/18/2012 7:34:52 AM PDT by beaversmom
Police arrive at wrong house, shoot dog
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
I may not be your friend after my last comment. I guess I can only tell you that I was on the force many years ago and I never heard of anyone shooting a dog. I worked with metro police and never heard of that either. Times were different but guys still got killed. Another commenter said it was a black power trip. In my experience black cops were good with whites. They “hated” lazy welfare drug addicted blacks. They are the ones who caught hell. The attitude was I got out of the ghetto why can’t you? Good attitude in my opinion.
It’s okay, I wasn’t sure if you had read something different in another news article, since like I said it has been making the rounds on Facebook. It looks like there are quite a few stories popping up about it.
Cops shoot dogs because of police trainers who tell them to always shoot the dog
One day, the national discussion will focus on how disturbing police training has become and what kind of really creepy people are getting paid lots of taxpayer money doing this police training. Remember I mentioned this when it finally gets to that point.
As an artist, I was given permission by a landowner to paint on his property. While there, I was attacked by the owner’s Great Dane. I fended him off with my camp chair while the owner watched. Finally he called him off. (the owner didn’t recognize me) It would never have occurred to me to shoot the dog even if I had been carrying.
It seems like the philosophy for policemen is: If a dog barks and/or moves toward me, I shoot it. What if meter readers shared this philosophy?
What? Obama was hungry!
The time between ‘get your dog’ and the shot was less than a second. And he said that after demanding to see the owners hands.
Dogs don’t recognize uniforms. The dog sensed that his owner was in danger. Officers have to realize this when dealing with dogs.
I have never had to shoot a dog. For the most part I talk to them and they usually calm down.
I cannot support the officer in this case unless there is more evidence outside of the audio/video.
The time between ‘get your dog’ and the shot was less than a second. And he said that after demanding to see the owners hands.
Dogs don’t recognize uniforms. The dog sensed that his owner was in danger. Officers have to realize this when dealing with dogs.
I have never had to shoot a dog. For the most part I talk to them and they usually calm down.
I cannot support the officer in this case unless there is more evidence outside of the audio/video.
Check out my later posts. I thought the call was man with gun. Don’t know how you handle it but it got the hair up on the back of my neck. One of ours cut in half with a sawed off shotgun. You are right. He mishandled the call.
It will go nicely with thw Wagu Beef they serve at the Wednesday Night Party.
Non-story... if they arrive at the right address and don’t shoot the dog, now that is something!
Thanks for the link. BFLV
"The officer who shot Cisco has been temporarily transferred
and pulled off the street, but has not been suspended."
It must be legally and financially remedied in such a way so as to make the victims whole and the individual(s) personally responsible for the incident and those responsible for their training and supervision are personally held responsible!
Tyranny is tolerated or overthrown.
Ah, too sad! The man and the dog did nothing wrong. From that audio it sounded like that cop was way too quick to draw his weapon.
Why not? Your comment sounded reasonable, calm, and at least giving the responding officer's viewpoint a fair shake. You said it was a tough call, and it was.
But I think the times have changed, and so have the people. Do you not find that dog owners and parents seem to be much less willing to be accountable for the actions of their pooches or their children these days?
You could be more wrong, but I can't imagine how.
A dog is going to protect his person against a stranger that the dog believes is a threat to his person. What is happening all too often is that cops are entering premises uninvited and shooting the dog out-of-hand simply because the dog is there. I have 7 dogs, all of whom are very well-behaved with my wife and myself. Under most circumstances, they are reasonably well-behaved with strangers with the exception of a couple of dogs who bark incessantly at the stranger.
Barking is one of the behavior's that cops are being trained are indications of aggressiveness and they are shooting as a result. The two dogs who bark the most at strangers are a Chihuahua and a Dachshund/Corgi mix - clearly threatening and dangerous to a human who is much larger nd better able to protect themselves from such a small dog without the aid of a .357 or a police special (/sarc).
My pit bull, BTW, loves people nd wouldn't ever think of hurting one - behavior we have observed many, many times in the years we have had this dog. However, this sweet, gentle animal would be among the first to be shot by a cop "just because".
Again, I reiterate that this is an issue of training, communication and discipline. The cops aren't trained to assess situations better and understand that the dog may not be threatening them, but warning them not to hurt their person. The dispatchers need to be trained to stop sending cops to the wrong house!! The dispatcher's need to communicate information more clearly and make sure they send someone to the correct address before this situation repeats itself. And, finally, the cops need to be less aggressive than the dogs, analyze the situation better and seek better solutions than shoot first and apologize later. It is ironic that cops will tolerate a plethora of wild, bad behavior from suspects without even so much as pulling their weapon, but they won't hesitate to kill an animal.
Let me help you imagine that your situation is peculiar to you and your pets, and is anecdotal; not necessarily applicable to a broader population.
Let me also help you imagine that such a larger population has a statistical occurrence of nuisance animals as well as humans, with which every sworn officer with arrest powers is likely to have to deal.
Furthermore, perhaps you can be persuaded that every urban area of any size is likely to need and have a code on animal control, which code will enumerate the responsibilities of an owner, as well as providing for animal control officers appointed to administer and enforce the code.
It might be well to imagine that the typical animal control officer's sidearm is not carried as a personal foible.
Perhaps reading your state and/or county codes will help you imagine that the unfenced external premises are open for lawful entry anyplace on it by any law officer for any purpose he deems appropriate, and is not trespassing.
Now, imagine that you peruse the following link, to see that if you live in my county, you need to use your imagination to become familiar what the expectations are that you will meet as a resident and pet owner of this area. Here it is:
A Typical County Animal Control Code
(Then click on "Chapter 4. Animals" in the left pane; and after that on "Article 2. - Animal Control" in the right pane.)
You might also consider that if you imagine that your opinion is going to supercede the definitions and provisons of the local codes, you might be wrong.
Color me imaginative.
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