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Linux. Do it your way!
Unixmen ^ | 10 April 2012 | Chris Jones

Posted on 04/11/2012 8:50:53 AM PDT by ShadowAce

I like to think that Linux is about a flexible an operating system as you can find. But it can be easy to forget just how flexible it is. We can get ourselves stuck in our computing habits and stick with the old and familiar. And sometimes, just trying something new can sometimes seem daunting and just not worth the effort.

But I believe it is worth the effort. And by the end of the process, you will have probably learned something that you did not know already. One of the aspects of Linux that I would like to point out and focus on is the amount of different processes and methods of what can be used for Linux operating system installation.

Sure, we have fancy graphical installers such as Ubuntu’s Ubiquity and Red Hat’s Anaconda. But despite coming a long way in the last 5 years or more, they are still not the one-solution-for-all of installers that you might like to think. There never will be a one-solution-for-all installer that covers all architectures, methods and options.

Ubuntu provide an alternate (non-graphical) installer. And as great an option as the alternate installer is, it’s still not the only option available other than graphical installers.
As a side note; Red Hat used to provide a text-installer option on the Fedora discs which could be called upon when running the Live CD with a specific boot command. I have not tried this option for many years now and am still not too sure whether this is provided on the Live CD of Fedora. If someone know, feel free to email me and let me know.

What prompted me to write this is something I am currently experiencing with my own system. I can’t install the latest Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2. I have no idea what is preventing it to boot into my system, but I have tried the Live CD, the alternate installer on both x86 and AMD64. Neither boot. And without going into any more specifics of that particular issue, it prompted me to look for different methods of installation other than the regular and obvious choices that 9 out of 10 of us usually go for, purely out of habit and convenience.

I decided to build a new Ubuntu system within Oracle VM VirtualBox, but I decided to stick with Ubuntu 11.10 x86 for stability. I will re-visit 12.04 once the final version has been released. Both the Live CD and alternate installers perform the full Ubuntu system installation, which I do not want to have installed. Yes, there is a Server option also, but is also too big and bloated for my needs. I wanted something very light, sleek and fast. I decided to install my new Ubuntu VM using the Mini ISO. Or otherwise known as a Net Boot Installer.

The ISO basically provides you with just enough support to get your network running and the rest is all downloaded and installed over your network. I have to admit, this was my first time doing this with Ubuntu. I have done many net installations with Arch Linux and Gentoo, but until this occasion I had no idea that Ubuntu provided the Mini ISO. Which I might mention weighs in at a mere ~23MB. So it’s super quick to download and boot into a VM.

The rest of the process really depends on your network speed and bandwidth capability and the mirror selected during the network setup. And also, a lot depends on your system specifications as to how fast the whole process will take. In my case, under a virtual machine environment, the process of Boot > Network and Mirror Setup > Download of base packages > Configuration and Installation of packages took not much longer than 1 hour. And that was downloading from the Official US based mirror. This could be a lot faster or a lot slower on your own system, depending on the aforementioned points that I have raised.

I found the whole experience exciting and interesting. And getting full control of what goes into your system from the very beginning can be very handy. Particularly if you are fussy like me and don’t use a graphical environment for your Linux systems. I just installed the base packages and no more. And it boots fast and operates fast due to the lightweight nature of the whole operating system. But of course, a graphical environment can also be installed if you wish. You can install whatever you like, it’s your system!

I have really enjoyed my latest experience of building an operating system from scratch. And I could not help but think about how flexible and versatile Linux is and has become. I just couldn’t stop my self from thinking, “Windows can’t do this”.

If you have never built a system from scratch using a Net Boot Installer, I highly recommend you try it. It gives you complete control over everything right from the very beginning.

So my advice is to all the users out there complaining that X Distribution is hopeless, or Y Distribution is not listening to what the users are saying, then get out there and explore Linux from a different angle and do something different. Take advantage of Linux from the initial installation process and do it the way you want it done. There’s no longer an excuse. And especially considering the now widespread usage of virtual machines with the use of Oracle VM VirtualBox and other virtualization packages. The choices are infinite and you can run as many Linux system as you want. (Or what your hardware permits). And also remember, there’s plenty of Linux distributions out there on the internet that allow Net Boot Installs. Just Google your favorite Linux distribution and the search term “Net Boot” and you should find what you’re looking for. Explore the options available. You might even find something new that you were not previously aware of, as I did with the Ubuntu Mini ISO.


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To: ShadowAce
I just put the disc in the drive

I wonder if I even have a working CD/DVD drive around somewhere. Installs and upgrades are all PXE or editing grub to boot the install image. So much faster (or it was, don't know what media speeds are these days).

21 posted on 04/11/2012 10:40:08 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Darth Reardon

PXE booting is quite nice. Much faster as well.


22 posted on 04/11/2012 10:44:08 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Must be a Linux proxy causing it :-)


23 posted on 04/11/2012 12:01:07 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
LOL! Actually, this is a Windows-centric environment, so I doubt it.

Notice I did not blame Windows for this

24 posted on 04/11/2012 12:11:58 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: whd23

“I haven’t had to recompile a kernel or driver in at least five years. It’s well past time to retire that cliche.”

Indeed. I come from a MS-DOS and Windows background. I got so tired of Micro$nots shabby treatment of customers that I desperately wanted to ditch them. Beside that, Windows is a virus magnet. I tried half a dozen distros until I settled for Ubuntu and Mint. I don’t know Unix and have never had to compile anything. All most people use is Office applications and Internet browsing — for those, Linux is a no-brainer.


25 posted on 04/11/2012 12:33:03 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I'd love to explore a world that's not windows-dominated. But you want me to read all this and it's just about installing it? Daunting, indeed.

I wonder why so many people think Linux is hard to install? I have been using it for almost fifteen years now and have installed one or another flavor probably fifty times or more. And during that time I have run into real problems maybe two or three times total. Most distro installers out there are just fantastic. Boot, click and use. Easy as that. Windows, at least up to XP, was the opposite. The few times I have tried to actually reinstall that operating system it was like pulling teeth. The installer design was simply terrible, and there always seemed to be major and mysterious problems. At least twice I couldn't get a successful result of any kind and ended up just putting Linux on as a sole OS. Daunting does not do it justice.

26 posted on 04/11/2012 1:49:30 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: ShadowAce
The usability on Linux is just as great, if not greater, than anything Windows can provide.

That may be true in your particular case but if that were true in general, Linux would have put Windows out of business by now.

It is fully compatible, if you know what you are doing.

That is true if you have a lot of time to waste, are willing to buy new hardware that is compatible, and are really loose with the definition of compatible.

27 posted on 04/11/2012 1:59:25 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
The problem with Linux is the community's poor attitude toward users. bang! Snotty-assed-geek alert. I did in-home repair and instruction for a while, too, and absolutely love when a 75 year realizes that he can use information technology because Apple Computer designs for normal people.

OTOH, look at Ubuntu. They changed the desktop without concern for the user and now Mint is beating them on Distrowatch 2 to 1.

28 posted on 04/11/2012 2:06:36 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ShadowAce
I think a case can be made that Linux is the operating system of choice for Conservatives. Sure, there are a lot of smelly, commie, atheistic hippie types involved with GNU including their leader, Richard Stallman, shown here.

Of course, Linus Torvalds hails from a socialist country but he seems largely apolitical. And there are some good guys involved in Linux and free software like Perl's Larry Wall who appears to be a Christian and there's self-proclaimed gun nut Eric Raymond who really gets liberty afforded by the Second Amendment.

In spite of some of its slimier baggage, I find the self-reliance of Linux in harmony with my Conservative principles. For me at least, it instills a sense of responsibility for my actions. There's nothing like an errant rm -rf * command to realize that! In contrast, those using Windows (and even some of the more recent Linux distributions) are protected from the consequences of their actions with an invasive, nanny-like, "Are you sure?" prompt at every turn.

29 posted on 04/11/2012 2:11:46 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Moonman62
OTOH, look at Ubuntu. They changed the desktop without concern for the user and now Mint is beating them on Distrowatch 2 to 1.

Yup. One Linux vendor messed up. Now users are exercising their choice to move to a different vendor.

Try that with Windows.

30 posted on 04/12/2012 3:53:17 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Yup. One Linux vendor messed up. Now users are exercising their choice to move to a different vendor. Try that with Windows.

I imagine a some of them switched to Windows.

31 posted on 04/12/2012 3:59:03 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: MtBaldy

LOL.


32 posted on 04/12/2012 2:22:00 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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