[Yosemitest]

From post #34:

Here's something to ponder.


I think it more likely that the trip from Kenya actually occurred in August 1961, shortly after BHO-II's birth at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa.

Ann and her newborn son flew from Nairobi to London, via BOAC Flight BA162 and then took the non-stop BOAC flight from London to Vancouver, Canada. She then traveled the 110 miles or so, across the border, to Seattle in time to start Fall Semester, night-school extension classes at the University of Washington.

The trip would be challenging for a new mother, but she was young, healthy, intelligent, and capable. BOAC was very accomodating to mothers with young children back in the 1960s. No real problem!

From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was:

From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars:
Single Return
DL 1115.00 2026.80
F 1055.50 1918.80
T 764.00 1396.00
Y 701.00 1282.60



Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER".
Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit, travel immediately and pay the balance of fare in monthly instalments.

If you're wondering about where the money came from, think about this.
Look at all the financial supporters Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. had.
"In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya.
The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students.[22][23][24]
Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,
a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University.
Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends,
thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders.

Yes, it's quite clear that money wasn't a problem for the Marxists Revolutionaries.


Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here.
Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here.

The BOAC World Routes Map is found here.

Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here.

Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here.

Now think about those facts,and statements.

[4Zoltan]

The Timetable website is cool. I love those old documents.

I never actually took money into account because Obama Sr. seemed to be able to fly to the US in the first place. So there was some source of funds.

Now as to the COC, the one issued was not necessarily issued in Kenya, but somewhere the rest of Africa (other Africa). That’s a lot of territory. The Table breaks Africa down to Libya, Morocco, South Africa, Egypt and Other. So the first thing that needs to be shown is that the COC was in fact issued in Kenya.

Have you seen the Ken Allen’s FOIA document dump?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/59560239/FOIA-Release-Records-Relating-to-Barry-Soetoro-Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Barack-Obama-Sr-Lolo-Soetoro-Department-of-Homeland-Security

There are a number of documents that say the Obama Sr. last date of entry into the United States was in 1959 (page 8, Date, Place , and Manner of Last Entry into the United States; 8/9/59 - NYC - Student) and on page 10 the date is listed as 8/9/60. But there are no other documents that have later entry dates.

On page 35 is the William Wood II handwritten memo dated 8/31/1961;

Memo 8/31/61
Obama, Barack H. A11938537
Claims to intend to attend Univ. Hawaii for at least one more year to gain Bach Arts Degree in Economics.
U.S.C. spouse to go to Wash State University next semester. When finished school here plans to go to mainland school for a Doctor Degree in Econmoics – after that to return to Kenya. They have one child born Honolulu on 8/4/1961 – Barack Obama II, child living with mother (she lives with parents & subject resides at 1482 Alencastre St.).
William J. Wood II
Discussed with D.D.D & D.D – no reason to deny ext.
W.W.

And on page 40 is the memo from Lyle Dahlin:

“Mrs. McCabe, University of Hawaii, Foreign Student advisor, called on 4/10/61 and reported that BARACK H. OBAMA, astudent at the University since 1959 was married on February 2, 1961 to Stanley Ann Dunham, a United States citizen from Seattle, Washington in Maui, Hawaii. The problem is that when he arrived in the U.S. the subject had a wife in Kenya.”

IIRC, someone reported that Obama Sr. attended a summer class in 1961.