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To: DiogenesLamp

Are you suggesting that Ann was never even in Hawaii? Because for her to have not traveled anywhere, she would have had to just stay in Washington the whole time. But that would mean she never even met Barack Sr and so his finances would have nothing to do with anything.

The only other way for her to not have traveled anywhere would be if she moved to Hawaii with her parents and had the baby in Hawaii.

Unless she had the baby in HI she had to have traveled somewhere.

The HDOH manipulating records means we don’t know whether Ann and Sr were actually married. Seems like they were living at different addresses. In any event, the issue could be whether the DUNHAMS could afford to support Ann traveling - either to Washington or anywhere else.

And whether Sr’s parents could afford to send him various places. Remember how we heard initially that Sr’s father was a poor goat-herder, and then it turned out to be that his father was actually quite wealthy? Accepting financial aid doesn’t mean that a person can’t afford something - especially when the person in question is a communist.


116 posted on 03/22/2012 10:59:22 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Are you suggesting that Ann was never even in Hawaii?

Not at all. She was absolutely in Hawaii in 1960 because she is on record as having attended the University there. I am suggesting she was not in Hawaii prior to Barry's birth. I think she was in Northwest Washington, having been sent away to live with relatives to avoid the embarrassment of having a child both out of wedlock and with a black man. (Both No-nos in 1961.)

Because for her to have not traveled anywhere, she would have had to just stay in Washington the whole time. But that would mean she never even met Barack Sr and so his finances would have nothing to do with anything.

I am not suggesting that her mother could not afford to send her back to Washington to live with Relatives, I'm suggesting that Barack Sr could not afford to send her to Kenya, and her mother would have no believeable reason for doing so.

The HDOH manipulating records means we don’t know whether Ann and Sr were actually married. Seems like they were living at different addresses. In any event, the issue could be whether the DUNHAMS could afford to support Ann traveling - either to Washington or anywhere else.

I think the marriage is a sham. I think (barring further evidence) that Stanley Armour Dunham's best friend Frank Davis was boning Stanley's daughter behind Stanley's back. I think that when Stanley-Ann got pregnant, they had to cover up this relationship in the best way they could, with a stand in patsy (Barack Obama Sr.) to claim paternity.

I think Momma (Madelyn Dunham) sent Stanley-Ann to Washington State to have the baby and possibly give it up for adoption. (Mentioned in Barack Sr's immigration file.)

And whether Sr’s parents could afford to send him various places. Remember how we heard initially that Sr’s father was a poor goat-herder, and then it turned out to be that his father was actually quite wealthy? Accepting financial aid doesn’t mean that a person can’t afford something - especially when the person in question is a communist.

His letters (Barak Obama Sr.) back home indicate finances were a struggle for him. His Father HATED the notion of his Luo blood being mixed with that of an inferior White woman. The notion that ANYONE was willing to pay for a pleasure jaunt for Barrack Sr and Stanley Ann to go to Kenya is just silly in my mind.

Stanley Ann couldn't afford it, neither could Barack Sr, and those who COULD afford it had no sensible/believable reason for doing so.

117 posted on 03/22/2012 11:22:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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