[null and void]

Welcome to FR.

The definition of Natural Born Citizen is at the core of the issue.

Birthers believe that in order to Constitutionally qualify for the office of president one must be born on US soil of US citizen parents.

Others believe that any old anchor baby qualifies.

[Breto]

Human events didn’t debunk anything they just said blah blah blah he says so so he is a NBS now will all you doubters shut up

Colter is a mole for the left I am starting to think...

[Vendome]

Okee Dokee nOOb.

The issue is his status as a “Natural Born Citizen”.

No one cares if he is citizen by birth or naturalized.

I’m at the disadvantage of being on my cell so I don’t have access to my files.

Someone will explain it to you.

[PhilosopherStone1000]

If you’re serious, and for what it’s worth (I’m currently agnostic on the subject) here’s a brief run down.

1) The original COLB was released on the Daily Kos. It then miraculously appeared a few days later on Obama’s website.

2) After spending $2 million of his own money defending lawsuits requesting that he release his long form BC, he finally releases one after The Donald mocks him (while letting an Army Colonel languish in prison for six months because he refused to show it).

3) Sheriff Joe’s “cold case posse” asked forensic graphics experts to examine the released long form BC and concluded that it was a forgery.

4) Obama was an Indonesian National when he was young. He traveled to Pakistan in 1981 (by his own admission) at a time when he could not have entered on a US passport.

5) He sealed, by his first executive order upon becoming President, ALL records from his past (School records, etc).

6) His Selective Service application has some anomolies including an obviously forged USPS date stamp.

7) Three men were busted during the 2008 nomination process breaking into the US Passport office specifically looking for Obama’s passport records (see 4). (one is now, mysteriously dead, shot in the head while sitting in his car in DC).

8) There appear to be numerous Social Security numbers linked to Obama, including some issued from states in which he never lived.

9) Obama hid his long time association with Bill Ayers (who wrote “Dreams of My Father” for him).

10) According to the INS, the records of ALL entries and exits into and out of the US for the supposed week of his birth (August 4, 1961) are missing from the archives (all the rest, for a 10 year period around that week, exist).

Obama has the most secretive past of any President in recent memory. The thinking is that where there’s smoke there’s fire.

Is it enough to draw a final conclusion on the subject? Some say yes, some no.

But it’s not crazy to want to continue to ask questions.

[Vendome]

Okee Dokee nOOb.

The issue is his status as a “Natural Born Citizen”.

No one cares if he is citizen by birth or naturalized.

I’m at the disadvantage of being on my cell so I don’t have access to my files.

Someone will explain it to you.

[Texas Fossil]

is there really credible evidence that Obama is not a U.S. citizen

I would word it differently. There is no credible evidence showing Obozo is a U.S. Citizen or a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. There are 2 obvious forgeries presented to represent his COLB. Neither are credible.

I have seen no evidence that makes me think he was born in Kenya, but it is possible. I suspect he might have been born in Canada, but no proof. I think it is probable that Barack H. Obama, Sr. is not his father. There are several suspected of actually knocking up Stanley Ann Dunham. No proof.

There is no hospital record of Obozo's birth in HI. None. So there is a legitimate question if he is qualified to hold the office he was elected to.

[Uncle Slayton]

He was born in Kenya

He grew-up in Indonesia and was adopted by an Indonesian and renounced his somewhat tenuous US citizenship.

He used an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan as it would have been illegal for an American.

[smokingfrog]

http://theobamafile.com/index_next_eligibility.html

enjoy

[tomkat]

If you're seriously interested in the issue, there's an excellent link at post #15.

If you're a troll, you won't last the night in here.

I'm betting the latter, given your requesting that a FReeper send me the files, I'm on my phone as tho you were ordering a pizza and/or we exist to cater to your professed ignorance.

But I've already been wrong once this year, so will reserve judgement for the moment . . .

[Yosemitest]

Hello, new member from Mar 4, 2012.
If you are serious in your request, here's some information.
Someone said:

"Hawaii will issue birth certificates for children born outside of Hawaii, as a number of other states will do.
However, those certificates show the birth location as a foreign country"

I responded:

"Not it the parents LIE, and "say" the child was born in Hawaii, but provide no proof, such as a Birth Certificate with a foot print on it."

The ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF has forged ...yes, I said FORGED, as in FRAUD, FALSE, ...he has FORGED not one, not two, BUT THREE FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATES.


Here's something to ponder.

I think it more likely that the trip from Kenya actually occurred in August 1961, shortly after BHO-II's birth at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa.

Ann and her newborn son flew from Nairobi to London, via BOAC Flight BA162 and then took the non-stop BOAC flight from London to Vancouver, Canada. She then traveled the 110 miles or so, across the border, to Seattle in time to start Fall Semester, night-school extension classes at the University of Washington.

The trip would be challenging for a new mother, but she was young, healthy, intelligent, and capable. BOAC was very accomodating to mothers with young children back in the 1960s. No real problem!

From the Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables, the cost of BOAC from April 24,1960 until October 1, 1962 was:

From Vancouver to Nairobi cost in Canadian Dollars:
Single Return
DL 1115.00 2026.80
F 1055.50 1918.80
T 764.00 1396.00
Y 701.00 1282.60



Passanger Fares could be "FLY NOW AND PAY LATER".
Arrangements could be made whereby residents of certain areas may, on payment of a 10% deposit, travel immediately and pay the balance of fare in monthly instalments.

If you're wondering about where the money came from, think about this.
Look at all the financial supporters Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. had.
"In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya.
The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students.[22][23][24]
Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk,
a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University.
Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends,
thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders.

Yes, it's quite clear that money wasn't a problem for the Marxists Revolutionaries.


Passanger Information for that time frame can be found here.
Connections from Nairobi - Lusaka - Salisbury can be found here.

The BOAC World Routes Map is found here.

Departure arrival times from Britian to Nairobi are found here.

Departure arrival times for London and Vancouver are found here.

Now think about those facts,and statements, then ...
Consider these witnesses:

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Let's examine
how Hawaii legally can issue bcs for those born out of state
and then hide this fact
by issuing a certificate stating BORN IN HAWAII OAHU HONOLULU"

I refer you to Birth Certificate Vs. Certification Of Live Birth.

We just did a story bringing to light how
the U.S. Army revoked the orders of a Major scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan
after he filed a lawsuit
claiming that the deployment would be illegal
due to the fact that Barack Obama has failed to produce a birth certificate,
therefore he has not proven his eligibility to be Commander-In-Chief.

To say that we started a firestorm would be putting it mildly.

We had our fair share of rational responses,
as well as the usual off-topic comments, accusations of being right-wing nuts, etc.

As well as a few that were too obscene to put into print.

It turns out that our theory
that the document presented by Obama appears to be homemade has some support,
in that it seems that there is a difference between a “Certification of Live Birth” as opposed to a “Certificate of Live Birth.”

Our friend Pamela at Atlas Shrugs also presents a compelling case
that the document presented as proof that Obama is a natural-born American citizen is indeed a forgery.

And for you Obamanites
who claim that there is no difference between a Certification of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate,
we, as well as the State of Hawaii, would have to disagree with you.

Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute:

“[§338-17.8]  Certificates for children born out of State.
(a)  Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child,
the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor,
provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health
that the legal parents of such individual
while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii
had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year
immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b)  Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health
in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. 
The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91
that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates
and to require any further information or proof of events
necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c)  The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91.
[L 1982, c 182, §1]”

Everybody get that?

As long as an adult can walk into Hawaii’s version of the Department of Records
and provide proof that they (the parents) are a legal resident of Hawaii,
the document is issued.

The child, on the other hand, could have been born in Hawaii, KENYA, or a back-alley in Budapest.
How much more proof do you disciples of the Messiah need
before you will admit
that there are legitimate reasons
to demand answers on this issue?

Of course the fact that
Obama may have been elected to our nation’s highest office in direct violation of the United States Constitution
is NOT something that would greatly trouble a dedicated Kool-Aid drinker.

But you STILL WON'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH that
Barack Hussein Obama II ...is ...
THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF!!!



Here is some more information and links

and all of this without using the link to "the source of the "moderator-offending-video" by a group called The Council of Conservative Citizens.
This is NOT a Conservative group, do not be fooled by the name.
This group is a front group for a neo-Nazi group known as the National Alliance and is associated with Stormfront.

(But I don't see how those groups are MORE OFFENSIVE THAN the Marxists and Fascists in the White House.)

I have several witnesses, that have proven to me that Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Kenya.

First witness, Barack Hussein Obama II himself:



From the AP in 2004: Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Hmm…An AP story from 2004 entitled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate has been discovered on archive.org by many sites (and twitter where I got this). Does this mean now that the AP is nothing but a bunch of birthers?

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations. ...


The above artice is also found at FreedomsPhoenix.com.
They have a great spoof Birth Certificate you just gotta' see.
Also view the video at Proof Obama Admits He Was Born In Kenya.


Second witnesses, his mother and father, indirectly through their divorce papers.
Ed Hale, aprivate investigator in Hawaii, has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obama’s father and mother, which indicates they had “one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.”
But a later Update 1/1/2009,...
"In his 7:45pm Plains Radio broadcast, this last night, Ed Hale backed down from his prior assertion of having gained even uncertain information about the Barack Sr. / Stanley Ann divorce decree containing language referring to Barack Jr. as being born in Kenya. Instead, Hale referred to an apparently tricky recollection... of an ... referring to such a document's generally referring to the place of birth of the children of the divorced parents."
I believe that "indeterminate person" probably SAW the Obama Dunham Divorce Documents BEFORE Page 11 disappeared and viewed the Kenyan Birth Cerfiticate,
thereby telling Ed Hale
"the divorce decree for Barack Obama’s father and mother, indicates they had 'one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.' ".

The Obama Dunham Divorce Documents are viewable at this location.
There's a great assumption of the time lime at at link.

See the whole Obama 1964 divorce on Scribd.com or as 13 individual images below (in proper order):







I immediately called the clerk in Hawaii and asked where the extra page was. She looked, and counted, and said that there must be some mistake in the records – she counted only 13 pages that are available for reprint. I pointed out to her that the page count she sent skipped from page 10 to page 12 – page 11 was missing. To that, she suggested that perhaps the pages were simply misnumbered before they where archived into the microfiche.

I accepted her answer, not thinking much about it at the time. Perhaps it was just a clerical error in the 1960s, when hand-filed paper records and IBM punch cards were how court documents were tracked and maintained.

I have since come to learn that Obama and his team of lawyers have been working to sanitize his records since he announced that he’d run for President circa November 2004. Now in the White House, he’s still ACTIVELY blocking subpoenas for such documents as his Cambridge and Occidental College records TODAY – the same type of documents promised to be made available during his campaign. Obama and his lawyers are exceedingly adept at exploiting loopholes in Hawaiian birth certificate law to keep Obama’s past hidden from the American people.

This missing page – page 11 – very likely is a copy of the original birth certificate, based upon the prima facie timeline of the 1964 divorce. The Kenya birth certificate was likely requested on Jan 23, 1964 by either Judge King (to award custody on the next trial date), or recommended to Ann Dunham by her attorney for the ex parte divorce, where only one parent was expected to be present.

The missing page, 11, should be chronologically-numbered as all other pages were in the original docket file, by the court clerk at the time. Starting at page 8, Exhibit A is placed where it would have occurred by date in the paperwork (and appeared on microfiche), even denoting an erased, yet barely-readable “8″ on both pages of the returned notification sent to Obama SR. The missing page, numbered as page 11, would likely be a page that would have been admitted to the divorce file sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 – almost as if it were an undocumented “Exhibit B”.

Here’s a very plausible timeline merging the 1964 Obama Divorce papers and new Kenya birth certificate:

Jan 20 (Mon) – divorce request is filed by Stanley Ann D. Obama

Jan 23 (Thur) – divorce orders for trial are given by Judge King at chambers

(note – if the judge, or Ann Dunham’s attorney, told her to order the Kenya birth certificate, it would have been mailed 10,000 miles away, to the “Coast Province” Registrar’s office of the “Republic of Kenya”, likely arriving around the first week of February 1964 to be processed)

Jan 28 (Tue) – Gail A. Watanabe, presumably an assistant of Ann Obama attorney George Kerr, mails the notification for trial to Obama SR (her affidavit is signed Feb 3 and filed)

Jan 30 (Thur) – via Air Mail, notification of trial arrives at Obama SR’s Cambridge, Mass, address. The 10-day “knock and nail” notification would have expired on Sun, Feb 9. Therefore, the next trial date would have been automatically set, per Judge King’s instructions, for the first Tuesday, 30 days later, on March 3

Feb 10 (Mon) – allowing for a 10-day “knock and nail” notification for trial, Obama SR’s trial notification would have been retrieved by the US Post Office on this date, to be mailed back (as events turned out – UNSIGNED by Obama SR) to Hawaii as an exhibit for trial

Feb 17 (Mon) – the Obama Kenya birth certificate is signed by the “Coast Province” Deputy Registrar, to be mailed back to Hawaii for receipt by Ann Obama and/or her attorney
(note: mail time would have ranged from a few days (Air Mail) to a couple of weeks (ship), arriving back in Hawaii in the last week of February to first week of March 3 (Tue). Based upon Judge King’s Jan 23 orders for the next trial date, “at 9:30 a.m. on the first Tuesday after thirty (30) days have elapsed from and after the date” that Obama SR would have been served with the notice of trial. That notification came back, unsigned, by Obama SR, so Ann’s attorneys surely requested, and received Default Judgment for the divorce in her favor for “grievous mental suffering”

Mar 5 (Thur) – trial takes place in favor of divorce in Hawaii, placing custody of Obama JR to his mother by default
(note: the trial was likely rescheduled 2 days after the automatically set date of Mar 3, possibly for the convenience of the judge and/or parties)

Mar 20 (Fri) – the divorce decree is signed by Judge King


In Hawaii, birth certificates are not Public Record. If the Kenya birth certificate was a part of the divorce decree, it may have been pulled out at the end of the trial, or more recently by a watchful archivist or attorneys wishing to remove unfavorable information about Obama.
To date, despite other honest attempts to refute the Kenya birth certificate, such as dealing with when the “Republic of Kenya” came into existence as a republic have been “un-bunked.” Dishonest alterations of the Kenya birth certificate have been maliciously created by sites such as Democratic Underground, designed to discredit the Kenya birth certificate – they’ve been un-bunked as well.

Having not actually seeing the Kenya birth certificate, and it’s chain of evidence, no intellectually-honest person can say if it’s real or not. By the same token, none of us have seen or touched the short-form “Certification of Live Birth” that has appeared on Obama’s “Fight the Smears” or FactCheck.org websites.

No one can confirm the chain of evidence of Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth” that has appeared online, which is the abbreviated-version of Obama’s true, 1961, original long-form(s) “Certificate of Live Birth” and associated vital statistics records. Even the Hawaii Department of Health directly refuses to verify Obama’s online COLBs.



Third witness, is Barack Hussein Obama II's grandmother,Sarah Hussein Obama:
View the video Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II at Youtube.com.

Did Obama's grandmother say he was born in Kenya?The Oct. 16, 2008, telephone interview was conducted by American Christian minister Ron McRae, who describes himself in his affidavit as an overseer of the Anabaptist Churches in North America and a "Presiding Elder on the African Presbytery."

McRae, who called from Detroit, says Sarah Obama was in a public setting with several hundred people listening to the telephone call on a speakerphone. The interpreter was Vitalis Akech Ogombe, the community chairman of Sarah Obama's village of Nyang'oma Kogelo in Western Kenya, 30 miles west of the Lake Victoria-city of Kisumu.

"In the ensuing public conversation, I asked Ms. Obama specifically,
'Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya?'"
McRae testified in his sworn statement.
"This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she replied, "Yes! Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born."



Watch and LISTEN to the video BARACK OBAMA - BORN IN KENYA - The Documentary - STUNNING!
and prove it to yourself.
Also watch Affidavit and Tape-Proof Obama Born in Kenya.

The fourth witness, Tim Adams,
"Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State."

(It is now confirmed by Hawaii that Tim Adams did indeed work as a senior elections clerk in 2008)

Election official: I'd testify Obama not born in Hawaii

"The things I've said, I don't mind testifying in court," Tim Adams, the senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in the 2008 campaign, told WND in an exclusive interview.

"I was working there, and this is what it was. I'm not a lawyer, just a civil servant. I know what I know. I know what I was told by the hospitals and by my supervisors."

"There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."

"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."

At the time, there were conflicting reports that Obama had been born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, as well as the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children across town. So Adams says his office checked with both facilities.

"They told us, 'We don't have a birth certificate for him,'" he said. "They told my supervisor, either by phone or by e-mail, neither one has a document that a doctor signed off on saying they were present at this man's birth."

To date, no Hawaiian hospital has provided documented confirmation Obama was born at its facility.

Adams, 45, stressed, "In my professional opinion, he definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."

WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.

"His title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu.

Adams oversaw a group of 50 to 60 employees and was responsible for verifying the identity of voters, especially absentee voters.

"If you're working in the civil service and you say this, you're done," Adams said. "Don't expect to have a good career, especially since the governor is on the other side. Embarassing them is not good for your career."


The Fifth witness, Michelle Obama.
Watch the video Michelle Obama Admits Kenya is Barack Husseinhere.bhusseinobamagoofy.jpg target=http://s651.photobucket.com/albums/uu231/firewaller/?action=view#146;s instructions, for the first Tuesday, 30 days later, on Obama's Home Country.
Watch the second video, Michelle Obama - Barack Is A Kbr /br /enyan - Obama Birth Certificate.flv.

From Former Obama Supporters: "Michelle Obama in her own words admits that Barack’s home country is Kenya.
When you hear the MSM report that the Obama Birth Certificate issue is a non-issue and not valid to be debated,
they are telling us an outright lie.
The Constitution states plainly that a person must be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN to hold the office of POTUS.
When the MSM reports to the public that this is a non-issue or a settled issue
and the people that care about this are “Crazy Birthers” or “Flat Earthers”
they are simply trying to make a valid issue go away."

The Sixth Witness, Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego:
Watch Kenyan Ambassador Admits Obama Was Born In Kenya.

The Seventh Witness, James Orengo (the Kenyan Parliament Minister of Lands):
Watch Kenyan Parliament Minister Says Obama was Born in Kenya!!.

The Eighth Witness, Lucas Daniel Smith, has been banned from Free Republic, so I cut him out, but you can do a search and find what he has.

And finally, an outstanding video to watch,

(Revised) Kenyan Parliament Minister Says Obama was Born in Kenya!!

Case CLOSED!!!

Now ... think about it.

[Yosemitest]

Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri has a history:

The Kingdom of Jerusalem had its origins in the First Crusade, when Godfrey of Bouillon took the title Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri (Protector of the Holy Sepulcher) in 1099 and was crowned as ruler of Jerusalem in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem.z

Well, Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri I hope you can live up to your pen name.
You should create your home page so we'll know how to take you.

[DakotaGator]

Could someone explain the issue of Obama's birth certificate?

The crux of the matter is that no proof of U.S citizenship; be it naturalized, natural, or natural born, has ever been presented by or for Obama. Sheriff Joe's volunteer posse has conclusively proven that Obama's latest proffered "birth certificate" is a forgery completely computer-generated. Further, his posse has uncovered gross fraud with other government records pertaining to Obama. This could only have been accomplished with Obama's express conspiracy.

So what we have is an illegal alien usurping the Office of the Presidency with the complicit treason of the Democrat Party (who certified to all the Several States that Obama was Constitutionally qualified for the office), The Justice Department (which refuses to investigate credible claims of treason), the entire Congress (whose members refused to challenge this treason), the entire Judicial Branch (which refuses to hear court challenges or dismisses them on technicalities), and all of the Several States (who refused to demand proof of Obama's citizenship).

Sheriff Joe has provided the Sovereign State of Arizona all that is needed to deny Obama's inclusion on the upcoming Presidential ballot. It Arizona behaves honorably and does so, his treason will finally be acted on. And a hell-storm Constitutional crises will be upon us.

[butterdezillion]

Ann Coulter and the others who call this nonsense have been threatened into silence - a fact first investigated and reported on by Doug Hagmann and now confirmed by Arpaio’s posse.

I’m going to send you to a post where I give links you can check out, regarding this. It’s at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2861437/posts?page=58#58 . There’s discussion after that post about how those threats could possibly work.

It’s late now so I won’t do it tonight but I want to address the birth certificate specifically, in a way that’s easy for a beginner to follow.

But until then it would do a lot if you can understand that George Soros was willing to commit extortion on the whole American media in order to keep this issue quiet. And anybody with eyes and ears can see that the media - including “conservative media” - is willfully ignoring this issue. Of all the issues in the run-up to the 2008 election, this is the one that Soros INSISTED be kept quiet. That should tell you a LOT, before we even get into the specifics of Obama’s birth documentation.

I’m not sure what tomorrow looks like so if you get the media threats all absorbed before I get back to you and want to deal with the birth certificate specifically, you could read at my blog at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com .

[spookie]

U.S Supreme Court in 1874 defined the term NATURAL BORN as being a child born of two. u.s. citizens. The 14th amendment states “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisidiction thereof are citizens of the United States....” It does not state natural born but simply born here.
Thus Obama is not natural born because his father was a British subject at the time. They tried to confuse the issue by reference to 14th amendment and as you see in the quotes is the actual word for word segment concerning born in the united states.

[spookie]

U.S Supreme Court in 1874 defined the term NATURAL BORN as being a child born of two. u.s. citizens. The 14th amendment states “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisidiction thereof are citizens of the United States....” It does not state natural born but simply born here.
Thus Obama is not natural born because his father was a British subject at the time. They tried to confuse the issue by reference to 14th amendment and as you see in the quotes is the actual word for word segment concerning born in the united states.

[donna]

Sheriff Joe: ‘Tons’ more shocking Obama info
http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe-tons-more-shocking-obama-info/?cat_orig=us

[chrisnj]

There is a mountain of credible evidences that obozo is NOT constitutionally elig to be the pres.
However, no gov official is willling to address this issue except Sherrif Arpaio.
We the people are powerless to seek justice from the corrupt justice system.
However We the people can keep up the pressure to broadcast this issue, to seek justice in the court of public opinions.
Every level of gov has been infiltrated by the left/socialists/marxists/commie for many years now. ‘Conservative principles’ have been abandoned by most.
It takes them years to carry out this ‘coup’.
It will take us years to reverse course, to salvage our founding conservatism.
This is the wrong time to fight the right battle, OR there is a better way to fight the right battle -
to insist in not voting for a Rino even at the expense of keeping the usurper for 4 more years is NOT WISE, NOT STRATEGIC! Reasons -
- if our ‘not voting’ (i.e principled voting?) allows them to keep their man, we lose instantly!
- if we do whatever it takes to remove their man (e.g. vote him out!), we deal them a gigantic blow instsantly (even if you don’t think we win by getting a Rino)!

With a ‘win’ under our belts, we proceed to shape our destiny - hopefully we have a conservative congress and people, keeping a leash on the Rino president, guiding him along the right path....

Think of these scenarios -
1. Rino president: a real American who after all cares about the Americans, and on whom we can exert some influence
vs
their foreigner/terrorist man: with all his czars, agencies, exec orders, civilian armies, corrupt justice, DEPT OF INJUSTICE HOLDER! filthy rich commie handlers, union thugs, chicago mobs.... rendering Congress irrelevant and squashing us like bugs!

2. With obozo out of power, gov officils (may be the lamestream too)will be set free of their fear and finally ACT to prosecute the criminal obozo! (At least there is a chance even if the Rino pres comes to his rescue)
With obozo in the oval office - NO ONE DARES TO DO ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE CAN BUTCHER US ANY WAY HE WANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR 4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OR NO USE FOR US TO OPPOSE HIM!!!!!!!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
VOTE OBOZO OUT! HE MUST BE OUT BEFORE WE CAN PROSECUTE HIM, OR HOPE TO PROSECUTE HIM!

If obozo stays, we have NO HOPE! We need hope to sustain us.

OBAMA MUST GO BEFORE WE CAN
HOPE FOR THE CHNAGE WE REALLY WANT!

OBAMA STAYS MEANS ‘NO WE CAN’T’
OBAMA GONE MEANS ‘YES WE CAN’!!!

Hope you agree with this message and spread it.

[bluecat6]

The basic ‘issue’ the sheriff is chasing is a simple one.

Forgery - the criminal creation of a government issued document that is not authentic

Fraud - misrepresentation of such forgeries for the purposes of misleading citizens of his county.

So far the good sheriff has not - and probably will not - bring up issues such as constitutional issues or possible foreign birth or the definition of ‘natural born Citizen’.

He is after forgers who have defrauded his people.

[Scooter100]

Then I recall Ann Coulter claiming "her paper," human events has debunked the "birther" nonsense, but I don't really bother reading her columns any longer preferring not to be insulted by "three cheers for Romneycare."

With apologies to David Letterman, here are the Top Ten Reasons Ann Coulter is "in the bag for Romney"...

#10--She converted to Mormonism, so being anti-Romney is no longer an option.
#9--She slipped on her loofah in the shower and hit her head on the left side.
#8--She figured it might be a way to get on Rosie O'Donnell's show, before it was cancelled.
#7--She was tired of the cheap CPAC honorariums and veering left was a quick out.
#6--Wanted to boost book sales by appealing to the Dem market for a change....well, for Dems who can read.
#5--Having fun playing "Boys with Benefits" with Romney's five sons.
#4--"Actually, Romney looks much better in private than he does at a Tea Party Rally."
#3--When your temperature hits 108, you'll say almost anything.
#2--"One lousy comment about Obama, and I woke up at the Huffington Post....had to lie my way out, and it got to be a habit!"

And the number one reason Anne Coulter is "in the bag" for Romney....

#1--Too many "Pink Lady's"

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There is a lot that's fishy about Obama's background, but there's no real evidence he was born in Kenya. Ron McRae made the claim that when Sarah Obama said in her language that Barack was "a son of the village" that she was saying he was born there. Then he asks her if he was born in Mombasa, on the other side of the country.

There was much confusion surrounding her answer, but it's clear that if BO was born in the village he wasn't born in Mombasa and vice versa. McRae used slight of hand to make contradictory non-evidence look like two pieces of corroborated evidence to those who wanted to believe.

Travel to Africa was harder and rarer in those days. And if you were BHO, Sr. would you really want to take your White wife to meet your other (African) wife and your angry father who probably didn't much care for Whites, as he didn't seem to like anybody very much?

The natural born citizen thing has to do with interpretations more than anything else. It's by no means certain that the founders intended their words to be understood as the theorists claim, and it's unlikely that the courts would support their interpretation today.