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To: Vinnie
Manning takes the snap, Tebow drifts left, Rback drifts right. Manning can pass downfield or lateral it to Tebow who then has the option, or flips it to the Rback on the opposite side of the field except by that point the offense has had the ball on the wrong side of the offensive line for 10 seconds out numbered because Manning can't block, so they've either crushed Tebow or tipped the ball to run it back to a TD.

Ball is snapped to Tebow, fakes handoff to Rback, either runs, passes or laterals to Manning who then throws a pass. And if Tebow passes there's a 50-50 shot it fall incomplete. And if he does get it back to Manning who is a pure timing passer Manning is stuck trying to make a pass 4 seconds after the snap when his average snap to pass time is 1.8 seconds, now he's standing there like the Statue of Liberty with the defense 2 seconds closer to creaming him.

These are slow developing plays, the defense can rush both, especially because when Tebow has the ball he'll have one less blocker/ receiver on the field than normal because Manning is there too. They sound great on paper, but the reality is this is not the combo of players you want for that type of play. Put him in Pittsburgh teamed up with a QB that also likes to hold the ball too long and can scramble and block it might work. Teamed up with a pure timing passer that's never thrown a good block in his career it's a recipe for disaster.

64 posted on 03/20/2012 2:20:12 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: discostu
You are wrong, it would work. It would work better with 2 QBs who are mobile, and Manning is not, but you could still make it work. I would have the snaps come to Manning, I wouldn't want to have to pass it off to Manning. And if you lateral to him, he is too close to Tebow, the rush could come at both of them. But if Tebow is away from the ball, he can serve as an outlet for a double pass. If they rush a man to Tebow, that is like a block that he didn't even have to throw. And if they don't, it extends the play. What that does is let 3 or 4 receivers have time to get deep downfield. Instead of "1,2, 3, here's the rush, throw", it gives them time to set up very deep routes which in turn opens up the middle for someone else if no one is open deep.

Vinnie is right to think outside the box. Athletes change and improve, and strategies do, too. The game is unbelievably more complex than it was just 20 years ago, and it is good to come up with new ideas that then become what everyone is doing 10 years later. People made fun of the west coast offense, too, and said you had to run to set up the pass. Now the conventional wisdom is you have to be Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. But then you get guys like Cam Newton and Tebow, and a new style might be called for. Just wait til that guy from Michigan gets there, that will be interesting.

67 posted on 03/20/2012 3:29:53 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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