BREAKING NEWS: Error Undoes Faster-Than-Light Neutrino Results

Science Insider ^ | 22 February 2012 | Edwin Cartlidge

[preacher]

Graffiti:

186,000 miles per second, it’s not just a good idea, it’s the law

[dsrtsage]

“I travel at the speed of light / or at a relativistic speed, I come back, I haven’t aged, yet Earth has. This is what I don’t understand.”

I too, have problems with that. Much because the speeds are relative. Me in a space craft is traveling at light speed relative to what? Apparently relative to the earth. So, from my point of view, I can think of myself as fixed in space, and the earth is moving away from me at relativistic speed. So observers both on the earth and on my space craft can think of themselves as stationary while the other is moving relative to their fixed position. When I land on earth, who is to say I am not the old man, and the earthlings are the young ones?

[adorno]

I’m about to blow your entire argument away. I’m actually Jean Claude Van Dam, and I’m a Time Cop from the future.

Actually, you just proved my whole argument.

A time cop from the future would actually not try to mess with the past, present or future, which, if he did, chances are that, even he would stop existing, and hence, no time cop.

[traderrob6]

“Please, refrain from making comparisons to Global Warming. This is good science, open minded honest evaluation.”

Perhaps there is no legitimate comparison, however, it does illustrate how science and scientists have become increasingly willing to go off half cocked with some major “discovery” absent appropriate skepticism and diligent adherence to the scientific method which requires repeatability of result.

[Lazamataz]

“HEY! We don’t serve faster-than-light neutrinos here!” said the bartender. A neutrino goes into a bar.

[Greysard]

A time cop from the future would actually not try to mess with the past, present or future, which, if he did, chances are that, even he would stop existing, and hence, no time cop.

Many a Sci-Fi story is written around the premise that the future is so bad that the time traveler goes back in time to change the history - at any cost, including his own existence. Terminator movies are just one example.

This, however, creates a paradox: if the time cop gets destroyed in the process of changing the past then who changed that past in the first place? One answer to that paradox is the concept of the fractal Multiverse where Universes copy themselves whenever a tiniest event takes place. One obvious question about that theory is that you can't copy a Universe without having an equivalent amount of energy or mass at hand.

[Lazamataz]

Many a Sci-Fi story is written around the premise that the future is so bad that the time traveler goes back in time to change the history - at any cost, including his own existence. Terminator movies are just one example. This, however, creates a paradox: if the time cop gets destroyed in the process of changing the past then who changed that past in the first place? One answer to that paradox is the concept of the fractal Multiverse where Universes copy themselves whenever a tiniest event takes place. One obvious question about that theory is that you can't copy a Universe without having an equivalent amount of energy or mass at hand.

There is a solution to this, but you have to be willing to think really hard when this video is playing.

[dangerdoc]

Just like losing plasma flow to the warp coil. Bad day all around.

[adorno]

This, however, creates a paradox: if the time cop gets destroyed in the process of changing the past then who changed that past in the first place?

That's what I had in mind when I said that the universe would be nothing but chaos. With chaos, nothing would ever get to fruition, because, it would have been undone by a time traveler, and then, even that undoing of events could get undone, and so on and so forth. Thus, chaos. But, perhaps there is a better plan, and time travel is "prohibited" by design, and thus, what we have is an ever-changing universe, headed in a single direction, and that's towards a future.

[BfloGuy]

The bartender says, "We don't serve your type here."

A faster-than-light neutrino walks into a bar.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I think the release was tempered with the appropriate amount of caution. I really didn’t think it was over hyped.

And it’s good that they followed the facts, instead of trying hide the observations that failed to match their theory. Initially and later.

[Apollo5600]

The way we solve this conundrum is by using Time Cops from different dimensions to police our own home dimension. Therefore, if I accidentally shoot my Super-star martial arts actor counterpart, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

[Texas Fossil]

What amazed me was the simplicity he used to describe his concepts.

I did not know about David Hilbert. Thanks for that insight.

I spent 14 years in NM. When I lived there most of my friends worked at the labs. (I’m a Ham Op) I knew several “scientists” some of them were “rocket scientists”. I knew some physicists and some others who were techs but did not talk about their work. Other friends worked for the Military bases in the area.

Before I moved from NM in December 1985, I had learned that some of science is not about science but about funding. Had friends connected with the VLA site (deep space radio telescope) in Datil. Heard then a bit about National Science Foundation and the funding impact of the actual research.

It is much worse today. Many frauds in the business.

In a earlier time some of the people I knew accomplished great things with little funding. “Science”

Las Cruces & White Sands was famous for Robert Goddard and later Wernher Von Braun and his team. I lived in Las Cruces, but moved in less than 1 year to Silver City. Traveled (salesman) for a living while there.

Admired the work that Kelly Johnson did at the “skunk works”. He was brilliant about what he created.

A return to honesty and morality in our culture is the only way out of this mess.

Certainly not the Communist path that DC has us on.

[Erasmus]

Once a life form starts tinkering with tiny black holes the whole place blows up.

It doesn't actually "blow up," it "sucks up."

[2harddrive]

Here is a Special Relativity Simulation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgAII_crHHc

[Erasmus]

“Want a good time with a hot Italian? Call 6.022E23.”

[Erasmus]

A printer walks into a bar and orders a Bodoni Bold.

The bartender says, “we don’t serve your type here.”

[adorno]

The way we solve this conundrum is by using Time Cops from different dimensions to police our own home dimension. Therefore, if I accidentally shoot my Super-star martial arts actor counterpart, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

One paradox creates another.

So, what's to prevent a time cop from one dimension undoing the events that a time cop from another dimension performed. And then, what about, vengeance from the time cops in our dimension going after the time cops from the other dimensions who effed up our world and dimension?

Perhaps, the best thing to do is to eliminate the dimensions?

[Upstate NY Guy]

A neutrino walks into a bar and says "I’d like a beer, please."
After the bartender gives him one, he asks "How much will that be?"
"For you?", the bartender says, "No charge."

An intoxicated neutrino walks into a Mexican bar and says “Una cerveza, por favor!”
The bartender replies, "No mas!”

[Lancey Howard]

...Einstein's special theory of relativity, which says nothing can travel faster than the speed of light...

Has Einstein or anybody else ever explained WHY, of all the known particles, photons happen to be the fastest?