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To: Squantos
As best I know, NO manufacture will guarantee bullet-proof. Not to mention that unless the LEO is SRT the kevlar is most likely rated TL-IIA due to cost. TL-IIA is the minimum standard for most of the departments we work with. LOTS of rounds slice through that stuff like it was warm butter! We shot up an unserviceable IIA vest here one day. It stopped 9mm FMJs pretty well. Ditto for .45ACP FMJs. But Russian 7.62x25s went RIGHT through it and we had it snugged onto a big bag of sand to simulate a torso! I've got a buddy here who's a "big wig" in the DoD/LEO kevlar business. He's a chemical engineer and designs the material which goes into the vests as well as the vests. You should hear his speech on the definition of bullet proof. He's the whole reason that all of us extremists ditched all the IIA stuff we had and upgraded. :-)

Most people don't know this (you probably DO), but broadhead arrows shot from a good compound bow are hell on TL-IIA kevlar!
18 posted on 02/18/2012 6:52:04 AM PST by hiredhand
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To: hiredhand

The Bourque Terminator Fat Boys stopped 7.62x51 FMJ NATO rounds in NIJ testing. (all six, all plates in testing)

Maybe Terminator is a better choice now.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120214005775/en/Bourque-Industries-Level-III-Body-Armor-NIJ


21 posted on 02/18/2012 7:34:29 AM PST by Suz in AZ
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To: hiredhand
LEO

Huh?

SRT

Huh?

TL-IIA

Huh?

FMJ

Huh?

DoD/LEO

Huh?

Anagrams - not just for breakfast...

27 posted on 02/18/2012 7:53:27 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: hiredhand

Ask yer buddy what he thinks of the new spectra IIIA DOJ rated stuff.

Also I have a SOV-2000 concealable issued from pinnacle armor. They want to give me new spectra IIIA DOJ rated stuff from american body armor. I like the SOV 2000.

http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/dragon-skin/

Yes agree on the knife / arrow etc vs body armor.


47 posted on 02/18/2012 3:38:20 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: hiredhand

Ask yer buddy what he thinks of the new spectra IIIA DOJ rated stuff.

Also I have a SOV-2000 concealable issued from pinnacle armor. They want to give me new spectra IIIA DOJ rated stuff from american body armor. I like the SOV 2000.

http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/dragon-skin/

Yes agree on the knife / arrow etc vs body armor.


48 posted on 02/18/2012 4:29:29 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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