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To: LukeSW; Colofornian
If you read the first two quotes carefully, you will note that the comments were focused on the Creeds and the professors or ministers, not on those who belonged to the churches of the day.

Modern reconstructionism of mormon apologetic doesn't grant you that latitude. The use of the term "professors" in that era does not mean "ministers" - it means those who "profess" that faith - the people themselves. Your little twist is not in accord with the historical teachings of your apostles and prophets in that regard.

f you know anything about history, you will know that the Creeds originated with Constantine,

Well, one thing is clear, you don't know your history. There are many 'creeds' that predate Constantine, some of which are even recorded in the NT.

Moreover, many internecine fights among religions continued down through the Middle Ages to the time of Joseph Smith. And they continue today, as you must realize.

And that is not exclusive of mormonism either. Brigham Young notoriously persecuted and killed splinter groups. Mormons murdered innocent emigrants passing through Utah. Smith developed the danites to go after dissenters. Even today, those who believe in the bom, smith as a prophet and a living prophet are vehemently denounced.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only religion today that claims that Jesus came back to earth to start it, . . .

Uh, history challenged eh. Jesus began his church in the first century. Secondly, you fail to provide substantial evidence that Jesus really visited Smith - in fact smith himself cannot even get his story straight on the subject.

What Joseph Smith restored to the world was the means by which all who have lived on the earth can receive the necessary ordinances, if they so choose.

Can't restore falsehoods Luke. Those 'ordinances' never existed to begin with - only in the fanciful notions of smith

....sent heavenly messengers to bring back Priesthood power that had been lost.

They never existed to begin with Luke. All we have is the 'word' of a convicted swindler and occultist.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the effort of its leaders and members for the people of all faiths and of all times in the earth history, for which records still exist, cannot be denied.

All times? only since 1830. Bogus necrodunking can easily be denied.

Nevertheless, you will look long and hard to find any condemnation of members of any other faiths, either in the historical record or in current talks and essays by current General Authorities.

Oh shooting ducks in a barrel.

"...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels."
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

"Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century."
- Prophet John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 6, p. 167 (Hmmmmm and mormons want to be know as Christians?)

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the ‘whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent."
- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

So much for NEVER condemning members of other faiths.

116 posted on 02/07/2012 7:26:36 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Godzilla
Moreover, many internecine fights among religions continued down through the Middle Ages to the time of Joseph Smith. And they continue today, as you must realize.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sects_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement


JESUS: Hey Smith!       Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

JESUS: That's it.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: Nah - it was right.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

JESUS: What did you say?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

JESUS: No...

JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

JESUS: Nope.

JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: No; it wasn't.

JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

JOSEPH SMITH: But.... 

117 posted on 02/08/2012 3:36:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Godzilla; Saundra Duffy
Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent."

Where is Sandy when we need her?

118 posted on 02/08/2012 3:40:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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