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02/04/12 | Mountain Mary

Posted on 02/04/2012 7:05:04 PM PST by Mountain Mary

What has happened to our voting electorate? We are now faced with the possibility of reelecting the worst President in the history of our nation OR supporting a flip flopping, narcissistic Massachusetts moderate who wrote the blueprint for Obamacare.

People ask me why I have decided NOT vote for Mitt Romney in November, be he our nominee. I will not vote for him because to do so would be for me to live the same lie that Mitt Romney has defined himself as. He is a disgrace to our party and to our country. The man has no scruples, no core message and above all, no honor. He ran the most underhanded, ruthless, power grabbing campaign in Fla. that I have ever witnessed. He has no concept of how to respectfully challenge opponents, nor did he try to discover what that would look like. Instead, he resorted to Chicago thuglike tactics to destroy his opponent taken right out of the playbook of Saul Alinsky: Focus, target, destroy. He is not the Conservative that we need to bring the fight to Obama like we neglected to do by nominating John McCain.. And where did that get us in 2008?

The only way to hold our heads high and know we aren't selling ourselves short as Republicans is to stay true to our core values and principles by demanding nothing other than a principled Constitutional, Reaganesque Conservative who shares our values and like us, embraces the founding fathers doctrines that made America great. The contrast with Obama should be sharp. No Moderates/No Way. Pray for our Republic and may we always remember that we are One Nation, Under God.

Below is an excerpt from a Free Republic blogger that echoes my sentiments exactly. Watching Fox news, listening to pseudo Conservative pundits, talk show hosts and others in the MSM abandon the Tea Party and embrace this outright assault on our liberties. Our founding fathers would be shocked and dismayed at our confusion and ignorance. So would Ronald Reagan and my father.

Stop Mitt or Lose (Saturbray) | 2/4/12 | bray

This is how we know what LOVE is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. 1 John 3:1

"We just lost a special election here in Oregon where the establishment ran a self described moderate and lost twice in a row. When all of the experts try to explain that you have to run the perfect candidate to satisfy the moderates you need to ask them by what proof do they come up with that truth? There is more proof of Global Warming than moderate candidates winning elections so why do we treat it as gospel? As they point to all the Tea Party candidates who cost us elections we have seen in liberal Oregon that moderates don’t fare any better and will be painted as rabid conservatives so why not run rabid conservatives who can defend themselves. We ran a really nice guy who has a great family and is a small business owner who in many ways agrees with conservatives however he never really understood conservatism or how it relates to freedom. He not only didn’t have the ability to articulate it but he was told to make sure not to say anything that would offend the moderates or the media so he didn’t. In addition, the campaign as well as the Party used every means possible to make sure the volunteers never came in contact with the people to potentially say something that would offend them or the media. So to control the message and make sure no Tea Party message went out they ran the entire outreach by phone. What we ended up with was a vanilla campaign and unenthused voters who never showed up with their ballots. The excuses are as varied as the imaginations of those who ran this anemic campaign, from being outspent 5 to 1 or a 14% voter registration margin to mailers that lied, but in the end the Republicans never showed up. When you don’t excite the conservatives you don’t get the money or their votes. These of course are obstacles to a campaign but they can be overcome by an aggressive attack with a candidate who can take the fight to the enemy. You will never beat the Dems by playing defense since they will always fire up their troops and get their voters out at the end. We tried helping by running a strictly grassroots campaign to try to finally break the 35 year drought our district has had electing Dems and in the end couldn’t do it. We were hamstrung by the Party and the campaign to the point of our precinct organizers being told not to organize their precincts or go door to door for fear of them saying the wrong thing. When they were asked if they could go door to door to bring in the ballots for our vote by mail we were told absolutely not, they only wanted phone callers and nothing else. This is so they could protect their precious message of nothingness. As bad and incompetent as this campaign may have appeared it is a perfect mirror of what the Mitt campaign will look like. Just like Oregon the national experts know exactly how and who to promote to win the election and manage the message. They believe they have the perfect vanilla anti-Tea Party message to win over those movable moderates when what they think they know is the exact opposite. Nationally we need a strong crusader for our message to move and educate those moderates or we will have the same exact result we had for our election. There is no difference between Oregon and the liberal cities. The free stuff message Ohbummer will be spreading which will be going against a stiff liberal Republican trying to outgive him and will never work. With Mittwit we are heading down the path of destruction of the Party. Not only will it further divide the Tea Party from the Country Club as it did here it has almost zero chance of succeeding. We need to unite the Party and the only one who has a chance of doing that is a Conservative. A Conservative can bring the Tea Party on board where half of your activists exist as well as reluctantly bring the Country Club as they have to compare him to Ocommie which should be no comparison even to them. Our election should be a huge warning that in a district that could have been won was lost by the experts in the Country Club who manipulated, bought and used Stalinist central planning techniques to manage the loss. They will blame the voter imbalance, money and any number of excuses but it is a very good primer of what is going to happen in the fall if we nominate Romney who does not generate enthusiasm from the Conservative base and the Party relies on moderating their way to victory. His stiff demeanor will not connect with liberals and will be painted as a radical, rich, old guy Conservative no matter how liberal he actually is. He will have no defense against those charges other than being more liberal and alienating the base who won’t vote. The bottom line is here in Oregon we were lectured and manipulated by the so called experts how this candidate gave us the perfect opportunity to win and the experts were wrong. These experts are either incompetent, corrupt or in alliance with the other side. In the end they get paid the same whether the candidate wins or loses so what have they got to lose. These managers are not ideologues but hired guns to manage a campaign and as long as the phone calls are being made and meetings being attended then the losses were managed well. Our election is a warning to America that their moderate theory is flawed. Choose wisely since there are some powerful people wanting this election to turn out exactly how they would like. Don’t let what happened to Oregon happen to America so be a bit pragmatic to unite and work hard for Gingrich to defeat the Country Club. He is not perfect but right now it is him or the Moderate Republican establishment and a sure loss to Obama just like Oregon. Pray for America"


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Sent this to some of my "GOP/Conservative" friends today. Gotta keep up the fight. Thanks for your help, Bray.
1 posted on 02/04/2012 7:05:13 PM PST by Mountain Mary
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To: Mountain Mary

If the choice is between somebody who is known to be the worst Potus ever, who is known to be hostile to the People of the US, I will vote for the Nominee whoever it is.


2 posted on 02/04/2012 7:11:31 PM PST by omega4179 (Internet ID:FU░&#BO)
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To: Mountain Mary

What is most sickening in this, Mary, is that (I believe) the only way Obama (or whatever his name is) will be reelected will be through voter fraud and the computer hacking of voter machines. Our elections are perverted and stolen by the communists, and have been for many years now. Oh, we can’t PROVE it, necessarily, but with the anecdotal evidence, it is clear.


3 posted on 02/04/2012 7:13:05 PM PST by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: Mountain Mary

Some will vote for the status quo.
Some will vote for anyone but.
Some will vote for the lesser of two evils.
Some will not vote because of cynicism.
Some will not vote.
Some will vote for their principles.

Between all these factions, a united leftist front will win.

We will win when we unite under one principled leader and agenda.

This has not happened - yet.

2016...


4 posted on 02/04/2012 7:15:54 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: Mountain Mary

I hear where you’re coming from, Mary, and in the primary battle we have to do what we can to get a conservative.

Once it comes to the general election we’re talking a totally different ballgame though. If Romney wins the primary we will have a choice between Romney and Adolf Hitler.

And I don’t say that lightly. We are literally in the same position as the Reichstag right before they passed the Enabling Act of 1933. All the players had their reasons to give Hitler permission to make laws all by himself, even to the point of overturning the Constitution. Political reasons. Their politics was more important than any serious consideration of what a madman would do with that kind of power. The social conservatives wanted Germany to recognize the Vatican (and had a promise from Hitler that he would do this). The fiscal moderates wanted to break gridlock and get the economy back on track. The communists were already in concentration camps. They were all surrounded by the Gestapo so their self-preservation had an effect as well.

But in the end, they silently consented to the deaths of 11 million innocent people because they handed over absolute power to a madman because they were miffed about their own political agenda.

We are watching the rule of law totally destroyed - all the checks and balances run over roughshod while Obama’s czars and everybody in his administration laughs at subpoenas and any laws or rules anybody cites. And even as we speak Obama is laying the groundwork for sharia. It is no accident that he is forcing Roman Catholic hospitals to perform abortions, etc that are totally opposed to their faith; it is conditioning, because eventually ALL OF US non-Muslims will have to broken of our faith, which will be illegal. That’s what sharia means.

I could say much, much more. But suffice it to say that we are literally dealing with Hitler. I know we’re all frustrated, and I’ve said that I wanted to just sit out the election, etc. But we need to be very, very serious about this.

If Adolf Hitler was running against Mitt Rommey would you really vote for Hitler, or refuse to vote against Hitler? Because that is literally where we’re at right now.


5 posted on 02/04/2012 7:24:23 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Mountain Mary
This election may be like a lot of the elections involving our Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Several times we had to choose between Perry and other candidates that were far worse than Perry. Who do you vote for? The douche bag or turd sandwich?

But that is where the comparison stops. Obama is not a turd sandwich, he is death to the country. He is bankruptcy, he is a house set afire by an arsonist. While I'd prefer someone else Romney is wonderful compared to Obama. And he is a Mormon. I know a lot of Mormons. Say what you want about their religion but I'd prefer someone that would give me the shirt off their back (even a strange undergarment) than someone that would take everything from me and my family then cut our heads off.

I won't sit on my hands and not vote as others have said they would if Romney is the nominee. I'll support him to the hilt. In the meantime it is too early to pick a winner. The process needs to keep going, at least until Super Tuesday....

6 posted on 02/04/2012 7:24:42 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Mountain Mary

I hear where you’re coming from, Mary, and in the primary battle we have to do what we can to get a conservative.

Once it comes to the general election we’re talking a totally different ballgame though. If Romney wins the primary we will have a choice between Romney and Adolf Hitler.

And I don’t say that lightly. We are literally in the same position as the Reichstag right before they passed the Enabling Act of 1933. All the players had their reasons to give Hitler permission to make laws all by himself, even to the point of overturning the Constitution. Political reasons. Their politics was more important than any serious consideration of what a madman would do with that kind of power. The social conservatives wanted Germany to recognize the Vatican (and had a promise from Hitler that he would do this). The fiscal moderates wanted to break gridlock and get the economy back on track. The communists were already in concentration camps. They were all surrounded by the Gestapo so their self-preservation had an effect as well.

But in the end, they silently consented to the deaths of 11 million innocent people because they handed over absolute power to a madman because they were miffed about their own political agenda.

We are watching the rule of law totally destroyed - all the checks and balances run over roughshod while Obama’s czars and everybody in his administration laughs at subpoenas and any laws or rules anybody cites. And even as we speak Obama is laying the groundwork for sharia. It is no accident that he is forcing Roman Catholic hospitals to perform abortions, etc that are totally opposed to their faith; it is conditioning, because eventually ALL OF US non-Muslims will have to broken of our faith, which will be illegal. That’s what sharia means.

I could say much, much more. But suffice it to say that we are literally dealing with Hitler. I know we’re all frustrated, and I’ve said that I wanted to just sit out the election, etc. But we need to be very, very serious about this.

If Adolf Hitler was running against Mitt Rommey would you really vote for Hitler, or refuse to vote against Hitler? Because that is literally where we’re at right now.


7 posted on 02/04/2012 7:25:14 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: WorkingClassFilth

No. We will unite to vote against Hitler. We must. The alternative is beyond even considering.

As long as whoever we nominate is not a tyrannical Hitler like the usurper who stole our White House in 2008 we can restore the checks and balances and get back to saner ground. No matter how bad somebody’s politics is, if they submit to the rule of law and the Constitutional checks and balances they can never do as much damage as the Hitler of the USA.


8 posted on 02/04/2012 7:28:54 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Mountain Mary

What could possibly go wrong????/s

10 posted on 02/04/2012 7:33:25 PM PST by bigheadfred (Bang a gong)
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I am sorry but I do not agree. Obama must be kept from a 2nd term even if we have to vote for a flawed conservative like Romney.
11 posted on 02/04/2012 7:34:38 PM PST by Ditter
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To: butterdezillion

In Romney, we have the equivalent of the orange juice can that Mark Levin referred to. Sadly, it is like 2008 again except this time I suspect we may get Crispy Cream as a VP and not a real conservative like Sarah Palin.

If Obama gets in for a second term unconstrained, the country is finished. Even if he doesn’t, I’m not sure we will be able to recover from the damage that has already been done.


12 posted on 02/04/2012 7:39:52 PM PST by RonboTex (Get off my lawn!!!!!!!!)
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To: Mountain Mary

ANY nominee is better than 4 more years of Obama...who will literally destroy this nation.


13 posted on 02/04/2012 7:44:48 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: RonboTex

I would vote for a sack of potatoes over Obama. At least a sack of potatoes wouldn’t screw the whole country.

And that’s pretty much how people need to see it. Right now we need somebody who will not drive the country full-speed toward the cliff after first disabling all the Constitution’s brakes to keep anybody from being ABLE to do that.

We’ve got a lawless madman at the wheel driving at breakneck speed with a disabled vehicle.

Even a sack of potatoes would at least let go of the accelerator. People have GOT to see the critical point we’re at. And I’m hoping that his forced abortions (forcing the Mother Theresas of the world to perform abortions they believe to be murder) will help people see this guy for who he really is: a suicide bomber flying our plane into some buildings unless we can tackle him and divert this plane.

(Sorry to mix metaphors, but I think you get the point)


14 posted on 02/04/2012 7:45:46 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Ditter

A “flawed conservative” would be a vast improvement over Romney.


15 posted on 02/04/2012 7:48:37 PM PST by HectorOne
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To: butterdezillion

We will win when we unite under one principled leader and agenda.

This has not happened - yet.

2016...

It IS well within consideration and it will come to pass- just watch and see.

We will unite when we have a prinipled leader and a solid Constitutional agenda.


16 posted on 02/04/2012 7:50:44 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: Mountain Mary

While I agree with many of your points Mary, the reality is that we are dealing with the electorate we have. Even if Romney was only better than Obama on one issue, I’d still vote for him over our current President.

Also, I believe that if the House and the Senate pass the Ryan budget, Romney will probably sign it. It will be our best shot at getting broad entitlement reform and probably a significant tax cut.


17 posted on 02/04/2012 7:50:44 PM PST by coffeehays
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To: butterdezillion; Mountain Mary; WorkingClassFilth

“.. we can restore the checks and balances and get back to saner ground.”

Wise words.

“Some will vote for the status quo.
Some will vote for anyone but.
Some will vote for the lesser of two evils.
Some will not vote because of cynicism.
Some will not vote.
Some will vote for their principles.

Between all these factions, a united leftist front will win.”

Another good take.

This is indeed a struggle against evil, and a struggle of conscience; to do what is right and to do what is best, and hopefully they are not mutually exclusive.

I’m going to give the GOP primaries a chance.

I’ll go from there.


18 posted on 02/04/2012 7:50:59 PM PST by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: HectorOne
Maybe so, but no matter how bad Romeny is........ he is better than Obama........ much better.
19 posted on 02/04/2012 7:51:25 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Mountain Mary

I can’t bring myself to vote for Romney, for the reasons you gave and more. The establishment thinks we will roll over again and do whatever they want after lying, cheating and stealing. We’re suppose to be like the wife who always takes back her cheating husband. As long as we do what they want they will continue taking us for granted. We don’t know what will happen with this primary. Romney might explode, a real conservative might run third party. We need to pray.


20 posted on 02/04/2012 7:54:31 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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