Obama will not be at the hearing to be directly examined by Plaintiffs. Obama’s lawyer will present Obama’s COLB with raised seal and registrar’s signature. It will serve a prima facie evidence (evidence to be taken at face value) Obama was born in Hawai’i on Aug 4, 1961.
Prima facie evidence is valid until contradictory evidence is presented, i.e. a witness testifies the birth happened in Africa.
An Administrative Hearing Judge would have to make a determination if the witness stating Obama was not born in Hawai’i was credible. If so, Obama would have to present corroborating evidence he was born in Hawai’i, i.e. an announcement in the newspaper published in 1961.
If the Judge determines the witness is not credible, then Obama’s COLB will be accepted as a fact by the Judge.
The other question is a determination of the definition of a Natural Born Citizen. Obots will tell you it is defined as person born in the US. Plantiffs in this case are claiming the definition is derived from a Supreme Court case in the late 1800’s which describes a Natural Born Citizen as born in the US with two US Citizen parents. Another Supreme Court case in the late 1800’s describes a Natual Born Citizen as a person born in the US with two parents who are not employed as diplomats to a foreign country and are permanently domiciled in the US.
If will be up to the Judge to determine the definition of Natural Born Citizen. If the Judge decides its born in the US, then Obama is eligible and the case is closed. If the Judge decides its born in the US with two US citizen parents, then its up to Judge to determine if both of Obama’s parents are US Citizens at the time of is birth. The COLB indicates Obama’s father’s birthplace but does not say if Obama’s father was a citizen at the time of his birth. Furthermore, the COLB does not indicate whether or not Obama’s father was a Permanent Resident Alien of the US at the time of Obama’s birth.
And then there are issues with Obama’s SSN. But Obama won’t be there to answer any questions about his SSN application when he was 15 or 16 years old. Its possible the Judge may view Obama’s decision not to show up and answer questions about his SSN application as an indication of something fraudulent or he may decide its nothing to worry about and ignore it.
First he's going to have to get one, before one can be presented. And what makes anyone think this will actually happen?? Obama's gone nearly four years NOT presenting ANY kind of legal documentation to support the claim of Hawaiian birth.
And by the way, can the state of Hawaii be officially labeled as Vexatious Evaders?? These people have lied, cheated and stealed to avoid complying with their own laws.
Which is why Orly has arranged for wtinesses to present at the trial:
So far confirmed witnesses for January 26 trial against Obama in Atlanta GA. Per Orly:
1. Felicito Papa
2. Douglas Vogt
3. Susan Daniels
4. Dr. Ron Polland
5. Linda Jordan
6. Chris Strunk
7. I will attest on my search in the Selective Service records
8. Plaintiffs David Farrar and Cody Robert Judy
9. I asked another attorney with over 20 years of experience to be there in case I need any additional help. I will pay for his expenses and time.
10. One or two TV reporters told me, they will apply for permits to record the proceedings
if one could be a natural born citizen with only one American citizen parent... then there is no difference between a natural born citizen and a normal citizen. if this were the intent of the founders, they wouldn't have included the language.
the intent was to insure the person occupying the office had no familial split allegiances. the term 'natural born' implies the person is a US citizen because there is no alternative... it's natural to be an American citizen because both parents are citizens. it's that simple.