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Cruise ship runs aground off Italy; deaths reported
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Posted on 01/13/2012 6:37:29 PM PST by Perdogg

A cruise ship with up to 4,000 people on board ran aground on the island of Giglio, off the Tuscan coast, on Friday night, and UK media reported that at least two people died.

The Telegraph said some passengers jumped from the steeply listing Costa Concordia and swam a short distance to the island. A photo in the Telegraph showed the brightly lit ship teetering just outside a harbor wall.

Sky News quoted coast guard officials as saying two people died.

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KEYWORDS: costaconcordia; cruiseship; italy; tuscany
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To: Perdogg
Were they filming Speed III?
21 posted on 01/13/2012 7:21:57 PM PST by stevem
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To: Capt. Tom
951' Vessel maneuvering into that tiny harbor? I don't think so.

Do you?

22 posted on 01/13/2012 7:27:10 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: Revolting cat!; Makana
That harbor has two lighthouses. You pass between them.
If you look at the direction the ship was going, it looks like they mistook the portside lighthouse for the starboard side lighthouse, and by intending to leave it to starboard they missed the opening. - Tom
23 posted on 01/13/2012 7:30:25 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: driftdiver
Why would you jump from a ship that had run aground?

If it was leaning like it was, depending on water/tide, I'd sure as hell be contemplating getting off of it. I cannot imagine what a huge cruise ship rolling over would be like, especially if you were inside it.
24 posted on 01/13/2012 7:33:19 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: null and void

The Capt. of that ship is going to be unemployed.


25 posted on 01/13/2012 7:34:15 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Capt. Tom

“Non-Smoking Ship: No”

No wonder...


26 posted on 01/13/2012 7:38:19 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: null and void

I say, you could make a fortune on this leaning ship’s roulette table!


27 posted on 01/13/2012 7:41:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Perdogg
A cruise ship with up to 4,000 people on board ran aground...

That's more people than live in my entire town! We're lucky to fit four in a motor boat on a lake here.

28 posted on 01/13/2012 7:43:28 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: gettinolder
951' Vessel maneuvering into that tiny harbor? I don't think so. Do you?

It looks like the Concordia is too large to fit all the way into the harbor. The only way they could unload passengers would be at the lighthouse area and there is only a small area there, nowhere near the length of the boat. -tom

29 posted on 01/13/2012 7:43:31 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: gettinolder

where does it dock inside that little cove and why go in there in the first place


30 posted on 01/13/2012 7:43:46 PM PST by molson209
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To: Capt. Tom
Weird, based on the photo of the ship, then the aerial shot of the Harbor why was that ship in that location?. Possibly pulling forward to the Port opening to back into the Dock?
31 posted on 01/13/2012 7:47:48 PM PST by DAC21
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To: molson209
If you meant to post to me I'll answer. The vessel is too large to get into that harbor.

As Tom inferred, the Concordia probably anchors out and tenders cruise passengers in to the waterfront.

32 posted on 01/13/2012 7:52:22 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: DAC21

If everything is working these ships are incredibly maneuverable, with thrusters that can basically spin it in place, etc.

Which is why I think something went wrong power-wise.


33 posted on 01/13/2012 7:52:22 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: DAC21; gettinolder; Revolting cat!; Makana
Weird, based on the photo of the ship, then the aerial shot of the Harbor why was that ship in that location?. Possibly pulling forward to the Port opening to back into the Dock?

The Island of Giglio is not on the ships itinerary. It looks like they were going elsewhere and just ran aground.

If you look at that beautiful little harbor it is not capable of handling a big cruise ship like the Concordia.- Tom

34 posted on 01/13/2012 7:54:48 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Perdogg

Damn, that piece of land is not on the map we Googled. Get that first mate in here now!


35 posted on 01/13/2012 8:02:12 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: gettinolder
Found this in the Australian Press-"The ship was on a cruise in the Mediterranean, leaving from Savona with planned stops in Civitavecchia, Palermo, Cagliari, Palma, Barcelona and Marseille," the company said.

Since the Island of Giglio is not on the itinerary, it looks like a major screwup.

I can imagine the chaos on that tiny peaceful Island when thousands of tourists come ashore at night needing assistance.-tom

36 posted on 01/13/2012 8:11:18 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: gettinolder

I worked on Jewel of the Seas, a RCCL cruise ship, for ten months. (IIRC, 850 crew, about 950 feet long, about 95K tons) It was the habit and practice of the captain to BACK into port...because the penalties the cruise line have to pay for overstaying in port are formidable. 15 minutes late might be a $25K fine. So when it’s time to leave, they want to scoot.

When we came into Bermuda, I think the town was St. George, or Georgetown, the ship drove forward into the area between two jetties and turned end-for-end 180 degrees around. There was no more than 30 feet clearance between the jetties and either the bow or the stern of the boat. (On a boat like that, 30 feet is like 30 inches) The way this was done was two-fold. The ship used azipods for propulsion, which look like upside down desk fans...and of course it had bow thrusters. My suspicion is that they had a computer navigation program that could rotate the ship in place; with no forward or reverse motion. Additionally, there was a crew member on the bow and one on the stern, with handheld laser distance guns that either fed into the nav computer or, gave readings through an electronic or radio connection. I think the latter. It was pretty damn cool how they did it, and I used to joke with the captain how the hell he did it. Of course, I only landed in Bermuda maybe 17 times so I got to see it a lot!


37 posted on 01/13/2012 8:14:29 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (The only economic certainty: When it all blows up, Krugman will say we didn't spend enough.)
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To: Perdogg

The skipper is looking for a new job on a ranch in Wyoming.


38 posted on 01/13/2012 8:27:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DAC21
Weird, based on the photo of the ship, then the aerial shot of the Harbor why was that ship in that location?.

Let's see. Right red return. Was that the color of the light house or the light? I forget. Mario, get me another grappa.

39 posted on 01/13/2012 8:47:47 PM PST by bobzeetwin
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To: CrazyIvan; Strategerist
A brand-new mega cruise liner was on one of its first runs a few years back, between Jacksonville FL and the Bahamas. They are both steered and driven by their isopod thrusters, so it is all done by computer input and something went haywire. The ship went into an uncontrolled turn so severe that dozens were knocked down and injured. The ship returned to port. Gremlins of some sort.

These thrusters provide tremendous control in port, lessoning the need for tugs. But if one just swings wildly at higher speed, due to a crossed wire or false computer input, bad things will happen fast.


40 posted on 01/13/2012 8:49:39 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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