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The Catholic (Santorum or Gingrich) vs. the Mormon (vanity)
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Posted on 01/03/2012 10:45:00 PM PST by MacMattico

Would we have thought that possible a while ago?

As a Catholic, I'm quite proud!

I don't hate Mormons, but how can any reasonable individual believe what Mormons believe?

I am very happy for Rick Santorum today, and glad Newt is going after Romney. I know Romney's religion hasn't come up, but it will in any general election. Really, he has freedom to believe what he wants but it should be vetted if that's what will kill his candidacy in the general.


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Someone needs to ask Romney serious questions about his religion-- beliefs that nobody not here know much about--yet.

I'm not interested in the Rev Wright vs Joseph Smith election!

1 posted on 01/03/2012 10:45:04 PM PST by MacMattico
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Oh, really. So, you want to make the election about religion, great.


2 posted on 01/03/2012 10:48:09 PM PST by psjones (u)
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To: MacMattico

Two Catholics, two Mormons, and a Jew hater walk into a New Hampshire bar.........


3 posted on 01/03/2012 10:50:33 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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Ugh...who really cares? I’m a Christian, but if a Buddhist believed in traditional values, smaller government and freedom of religion I’d vote for them.

Is this really necessary?

And no I’m not a Romney supporter.


4 posted on 01/03/2012 10:53:06 PM PST by teg_76
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So this a religious war and not an American election? Shouldn’t we just draft a Jew and a Muslim to make it more equitable?

We’ve lost our way, pure and simple.


5 posted on 01/03/2012 10:54:43 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: psjones

No, I don’t, but Obama will and exploit the fact that Romney is a Mormon. Regardless of who’s more liberal or conservative, you can’t have Evangelicals or Catholic conservatives sitting at home if you want to win a general election. And when Obama attacks Romney over his being in a cult (which is what they will call LDS), Obama will have a second term. Believe what you wish but I believe Obama knows Romney’s religion is his trump card and holding it close to the vest. I personally would vote for Romney over Obama but I am but one vote.


6 posted on 01/03/2012 10:54:57 PM PST by MacMattico
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I don't like bringing it up either but Obama supporters will and if you have evangelicals sitting at home not voting, you've lost an election. I would vote for Romney over Obama personally, but you will have Obama surrogates calling LDS a cult from coast to coast.
7 posted on 01/03/2012 11:00:23 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: CainConservative

So that would be Santorum, Gingrich, Romney, Huntsman, and Obama?


8 posted on 01/03/2012 11:04:09 PM PST by MacMattico
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I'm Catholic. Quite frankly I see Santorum as a conservative. Religion doesn't matter in electing a conservative -- I supported Cain who was a Baptist.

however, I would never support a candidate who said "i belong to the same xxxyy group as you, vote for me" -- rather I support a candidate who says "i hold the same political views as you, vote for me".

Santorum DOES -- I supported Gingrich after Cain left because I really thought Santorum had no chance at all, and because Perry would be slaughtered in a debate with Obama (and Bachman, my first choice showed herself as a whiner and a "let's attack, not talk about what I stand for" person).

9 posted on 01/03/2012 11:05:53 PM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: FryingPan101

When are you going to change your ridiculous tag line? It is the best fiction I have heard in a while.


10 posted on 01/03/2012 11:06:09 PM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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To: MacMattico; psjones

Mac — also, Obama will use the GOP candidate’s religion against him whichever way. If a Catholic/Evangelical wins, then Obama will demonise them as “anti-choice, anti-civil liberties, racist, sexist, /..ist” etc. etc.


11 posted on 01/03/2012 11:07:34 PM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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I liked Cain, too. I'm not saying I wouldn't vote outside my religion I'm saying I think Obama will release his minions to inform everyone that Romney is a member of a cult, which many people believe LDS is. And many of those people are conservative and we get Obama part deux. It's not discussed now because it will help Obama in the general.
12 posted on 01/03/2012 11:17:14 PM PST by MacMattico
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Romney has one Iowa by 14 votes. Just announced on Fox.


13 posted on 01/03/2012 11:19:56 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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one = won above. Goofed.


14 posted on 01/03/2012 11:20:46 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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15 posted on 01/03/2012 11:22:13 PM PST by ansel12
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You don’t want to mess with Harry Reid.


16 posted on 01/03/2012 11:22:46 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Cronos

Yes he will. But LDS is not considered a mainstream religion by many conservative/Moderate/independent voters. Enough conservative voters that it will swing the election. Sorry if this is hurtful to anyone but I believe it to be true.


17 posted on 01/03/2012 11:25:47 PM PST by MacMattico
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Statement by the Eastern Orthodox Church
Cults Within & Without
by Archpriest Alexey Young

1. Religious cults are the most common and familiar. They may be Christian-oriented (e.g., Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, or smaller, less well-known groups) or based on Eastern religions (such as the Hare Krishna movement, Rajneesh, etc.). They may be of an esoteric, illuminist orientation (e.g., Rosicrucian's, the former Holy Order of MANS) or a bizarre combination (such as the Moonies). A great body of reliable literature is available on all of these groups—Hassan's book contains an extensive and authoritative bibliography—and our clergy should familiarize themselves with this material.

18 posted on 01/03/2012 11:27:41 PM PST by ansel12
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I do not subscribe to the idea that someone's religion doesn't matter. A person's belief system affects who they are at core. It most definitely affects citizens who, if they perform well, will end up looking up to them as people and examples, not just as politicians. Think of Hitler, an extreme instance, with the purpose of drawing an analogy. He was apt at governing and caused Germany for awhile to proper and many of the German people ended up worshiping him. Because of what his core set of beliefs were, many religiously linked, he ended up destroying the Germany of his time and also was devastating for many of the worlds peoples and nations. Too bad people didn't look more closely at what his core religious beliefs were.

As a Christian I have the right to try to make sure Christians who are politically astute get elected into offices as much as possible. This is a right I have as a voting American. I am not required, morally, to close my eyes to what a candidate is in regards to his/her religious beliefs. This is a free Country and I vote for the best possible person to any office in this land and that means in his/her beliefs because I vote a person into office not a category. What this person says about him/herself should be backed up by the testimonies of other respected people. They need to be well vetted. Look what happened when a man of a dubious religious background got into the office of the President. We got Obama.

19 posted on 01/03/2012 11:41:59 PM PST by Bellflower
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Yes, many moderate/independent voters would be swung by that, but do note that many are prejudiced against our religion as well. Even many FR posters...

So, all in all I prefer it to think of Santorum or Gingrich as conservative candidates first, who belong to the Church.

20 posted on 01/03/2012 11:53:42 PM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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