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1 posted on 12/21/2011 10:04:11 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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marketwatch?


2 posted on 12/21/2011 10:05:54 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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99% ? They would be correct, but I am just a bit suspicious of that number.


3 posted on 12/21/2011 10:05:56 AM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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Could it be that no one believes anything that Obummer says?


4 posted on 12/21/2011 10:06:34 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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Many people believe Obama is lying about most everything.


5 posted on 12/21/2011 10:07:30 AM PST by bigbob
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Obama would not even be told if they did exist. He wouldn’t pass the basic security requirements. So, any pronouncement from his admin about the topic is meaningless.


6 posted on 12/21/2011 10:09:16 AM PST by StolarStorm
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I think the military is smart enough not to share anything it does not have to with Obama

I think they told Reagan

I dont think they told Carter

Bush was in on it from the start and so is his son

Obama? no way


7 posted on 12/21/2011 10:09:33 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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They certainly are lying about aliens, that’s for sure.


8 posted on 12/21/2011 10:09:38 AM PST by Beowulf9
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Gosh, whatever gave the American people that idea . . .


11 posted on 12/21/2011 10:10:19 AM PST by colorado tanker
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12 posted on 12/21/2011 10:10:25 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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With all the troubles that we have right now, Marketwatch is writing about the little green men?!?

If Planet Zorgon XVI is bringing cash to bail us out then they are welcome. Otherwise they buzz us with their flying saucers to their hearts content. We have better things to worry about.


13 posted on 12/21/2011 10:11:17 AM PST by sinanju
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Well, the aliens don’t believe Mr. Obama is president either.

-Rex


14 posted on 12/21/2011 10:11:51 AM PST by RexBeach
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It’s obvious from the sudden emergence of new technologies that we’ve reversed engineered them from advanced civilizations. Think about it - who would have been smart enough to invent a candy that melts in your mouth, not in your hand?


15 posted on 12/21/2011 10:12:52 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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0 is lying! He is trying to keep aliens on the Dems rolls. Opps, sorry that is ILLEGAL ALIENS, not SPACE ALIENS, since they would be smarter then vote Dem, so the Dems don’t want them voting.


17 posted on 12/21/2011 10:16:19 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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The Mount Baldy Institute for Resonant Viewing


19 posted on 12/21/2011 10:21:30 AM PST by Disambiguator
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How else does one explain the Kashyyyk Princess that’s living large in the White House?


20 posted on 12/21/2011 10:23:00 AM PST by digger48
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Sure... hundreds [thousands?] of people in the past and present government know all about it.... or maybe there is no secret? i.e.

Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead. -- Benjamin Franklin
21 posted on 12/21/2011 10:24:12 AM PST by NamVet71MP
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98%, 99%, come on? Only Soviet elections get those results!

Mike

22 posted on 12/21/2011 10:28:05 AM PST by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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Well that puts me in the 1%. I have no doubt that other intelligent species exist in the universe but the idea that they are wasting their time flying around interstellar space is ridiculous. Considering the distances involved it makes no sense to me and even if something like a wormhole could be used why waste time coming here?


24 posted on 12/21/2011 10:30:59 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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In some unknown place, Art Bell is smiling and nodding his head in a “I told you so” manner....


26 posted on 12/21/2011 10:34:37 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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Would the President be Briefed on a UFO Special Access Program
http://www.ufoskeptic.org/president.html
In 1976 presidential candidate Jimmie Carter promised the American people that he would open any government UFO files that might exist. Recall that while governor of Georgia, Carter had a UFO sighting and actually filed a report. After winning election to President, Carter met with CIA Director George H. W. Bush seeking a briefing on the topic. Bush turned him down, claiming that neither as President nor as Commander-in-Chief did he have a “need to know.” Once in office Carter turned to NASA for information, directing presidential science advisor Frank Press to ask NASA administrator Robert Frosch to “form a small panel of inquiry” to investigate the UFO situation. This letter and other correspondence may be found in “UFOs and NASA” (Journal of Scientific Exploration, pp. 93—142, 1988). Nothing at all came of this as recounted by Richard C. Henry — then a young astrophysicist (now a prominent Johns Hopkins professor) working as a deputy to the director of what was the Astrophysics Division at NASA headquarters — on whose desk this “hot potato” request landed. For five months NASA went through some amusing twists and turns, recounted by Henry, before politely declining.

Discounting the NASA farce, and assuming that any possible UFO program would exist as a Special Access Program in the Department of Defense, on what legal basis would the President and Commander-in-Chief be denied access?

It is likely that the UFO topic is actually classified by one or more laws duly enacted by Congress in the late 1940s concerning national security — but without any overt reference to UFOs of course — and signed by President Truman. Only a handful of members of Congress, if any at all, would have known that more than Cold War issues were involved in this far-reaching national security legislation enacted at a time of near panic over a Soviet nuclear threat. There are at least two bins into which the UFO topic could have been placed such that a future President could not unilaterally release it (legally) or, in fact, maybe even know about it. One bin is the category of Restricted Data (RD) established by the Atomic Energy Act in 1946 and pertains to Special Nuclear Material (SNM); another bin would be what has since evolved into the Waived Special Access Program system set up under the authority of the National Security Council which traces back to the National Security Act signed by Truman in 1947 (interestingly only a couple of weeks after the Roswell episode).

That means that even if an incoming President asked someone who knew about the existence of such a program, that individual would be required by law to not only not tell the President, but also to actively mislead him, if necessary. (Such a policy is actually spelled out in controversial documents that researchers Ryan and Robert Wood obtained and traced back to CIA Director Allen Dulles in the 1950s. The source of these documents is unclear.) If a president today tried the same thing without the appropriate clearances (which he could not give to himself) he would likewise be told (legitimately) that there was nothing disclosable. If this hypothesis is correct, then UFO information would be “Born Secret” by the Atomic Energy Act, and not releasable to anyone without at least an AEC “Q” clearance (and likely higher, R or above), plus a legitimate need to use it in his/her job. By law, all RD is “owned” by the AEC Commissioner at its inception. The AEC clearance standards are somewhat different than executive branch standards. In order to grant a Q or higher clearance, the Commissioner must find that the applicant is of “good moral character,” among other things. Thus, if the Commissioner didn’t like Richard Nixon’s burglary at the Watergate Hotel, or Bill Clinton’s dalliances, the Commissioner could withhold access to RD even on those grounds.

A new President who wants to know what the government knows about UFOs would have to be persistent, clever, and informed before beginning the quest, as Clinton’s failed attempt via Associate Attorney General Webster Hubble attests. Simply issuing a presidential executive order declassifying the topic might yield the mistaken conclusion that there is no such material. The first step would be to determine under exactly what legal jurisdiction the matter is classified. This could best be accomplished by a small dedicated research team reporting directly and personally to the President with at least high enough clearances to be able to read all classified Presidential Decision Memoranda and the classified appendices to the Atomic Energy Act and the National Security Act.


27 posted on 12/21/2011 10:38:13 AM PST by TSgt (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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