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To: savagesusie

It’s hard to know what the average person thought in ancient Greece—the surviving literature comes from a tiny fraction of the population, mostly members of the elite. Men wanted sons and to carry on their families so most free men married (unless they were killed in battle too young). There were lots of female prostitutes. Probably for the average male most of his sexual activity over the course of his life was with his own wife, with the rest divided between prostitutes and adolescent males—but it isn’t certain that all men indulged in pederasty (it may have been more prevalent in the upper levels of society).


32 posted on 12/05/2011 9:43:37 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

The most telling are the laws that existed....there actually were laws created to “encourage” marriage when men became at the age to reproduce since most men needed encouragement to leave their lovers-—they put in laws and customs to discourage homosexuality until the men at least produced sons. They treated marriage as “necessary” and homosexuality as the recreation and “fun”.

In studying art (I got my degree in Fine Art), I was exposed to a culture which glorified homosexuality—put it on a higher level than heterosexual activity.

But the ideal was man/boy “love” and that was an accepted and even celebrated “lifestyle” in Ancient Greek culture—yes, always the elite practices which filtered down to the “worldview” in the culture. Most Greeks couldn’t afford the time for seduction and entertainment of boys...they needed to survive by working and there were the Stoics and ideology on the fringe (the Old Testament) which eventually changed worldview, particularly with the advance of Christianity which revolutionized the worldview and put homosexuality and pederasty—so common in all cultures, in the closet.

Columbus found rampant homosexuality in the pagan world-—the Samurai had the same man/boy paradigm as the Greeks....so do the Afghanis today. The Brownshirt occultist also had homosexual orgies with boys from the Hitler Youth.....it is a worldview....just an opposite one of the Bible which is the basis of the USA worldview—or was.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rJLLV7U-XY


35 posted on 12/05/2011 10:27:55 AM PST by savagesusie
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