Are we going to let Obama get rid of Herman Cain the same way he got rid of Jack Ryan?

[GlockThe Vote]

LMAO!!! Are you kidding???

Go ask your spouse how she would react to finding you were texting a “friend” in the middle of the night and iving her $$$$ for her bills and then you proclaimed there was nothing serious about it.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

We have a media that only tells us the bad things about the people they don't want to win.

Troll.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You certainly have high standards when it comes to our guys, but no standards at all when it comes to theirs.

[beandog]

And how exactly do you know that Mrs. Cain did not know that Mr. Cain was helping this woman. You don’t. In fact, you don’t really know anything about what was going on.

I prefer to know facts, not speculation, before I make decisions.

[DTxAg]

Tell you what, Fantasywriter. I'll pay attention to anything you have to say if you can explain (without name calling) which of the following is a "vile smear" against Cain:

- My criticism of the 9-9-9 tax plan as increasing taxes on seniors, businesses that operate at a loss, businesses that make little if any profit, average families, etc.
- My statement that running a campaign based on increasing people's taxes so they have skin in the game is electoral suicide, regardless of whether I agree that they should
- My criticism of Cain saying that it's OK to ban mosques under the 1st Amendment since that doesn't discriminate against any particular religion
- My criticism of Cain for that "blank look" on Libya and not knowing what the "wet-dry" policy is
- My criticism that Cain accused someone of asking a "gotcha" question by asking whether he agreed to easing Cuba travel restrictions
- My criticism that he's never been in government and developed a public record where we could see how he'd govern
- My criticism that he uses the same old "I'll get good people" line when he doesn't know the answer to something
- My criticism that Cain keeps denying these allegations but never sues anyone despite hiring a nationally famous libel/slander attorney
- My discussion with others about whether Cain's campaign advisors violated campaign finance laws but setting up a non-profit and paying for Cain's travel and equipment

I could go on, but I'll let you start with that. Surely you and your superior logic skills and reasoning can explain how those are all vicious smears.

[Fantasywriter]

So where are all your posts advocating for the good conservative candidate of your choice? Please don’t expect me to even read, much less care about, anything you post if all you can do is criticize. If you haven’t positively advocated for any GOP candidate at all, then take your talking points elsewhere; I have no use for them.

[DTxAg]

Thank you for confirming that you’re unable to back up your claim that I’ve been “smearing” Cain.

[beandog]

I really want to know who you are supporting. It appears you aren’t interested in advancing your candidate, only smearing Mr. Cain.

[tuckrdout]

True, true...

[GlockThe Vote]

Not at all - I recognize how the game is played, and even though it is not fair - it is what it is. We are not going to change that and have to understand what is going on.

To me - getting rid of obama is a historical landslide is more important than anything. That goal and task is bigger than the person doing it.

[DTxAg]

I really want to know who you are supporting.

At this point, I'm not real sure where I'll fall. I originally supported Perry, but his debate performances were next to awful. Gingrich has his problems. Bachmann is an idiot. Santorum wouldn't get elected. I'll never vote for Romney even if he's the nominee.

It appears you aren’t interested in advancing your candidate, only smearing Mr. Cain.

Since Fantasywriting can't or won't, maybe you can tell me which things in post #105 are "smears".

[Fantasywriter]

I have learned not to listen to people whose only talking points are negative. They are miserable, ugly, destructive people. On the other thread, you mocked, demeaned and ridiculed Cain. It was as bad or worse than anything I’ve seen on any liberal site. It was creepy and disgusting.

Now, all of a sudden, you want me to listen to anything you say??? In a word, no. Not unless you can show me an equal number of positive, constructive things you’ve said about your conservative candidate of choice.

Try, for once, to read and understand plain English. If you write back w more liberal drivel—screw it. You’re just a troll-acting if not outright troll poster, and you should find someone who likes that type of input. I do not.

[tuckrdout]

You know, this is what bothers me about the whole accusations. If this man was her boyfriend for 13 years; then are her kids Cain’s kids? Show us the DNA.

Show us the content of those texts. What did Herman say to her. If it was anything personal, you KNOW it would have been plastered all over the news!

I was ready to dismiss this woman as well as the others, for lack of proof, until Cain came out with his statement! His own statement was the most damning evidence against him.

[DTxAg]

Thank you for once again showing that you are unable to back up your argument about me “smearing” Cain.

[tuckrdout]

I don’t care for Paul’s views on many things.

I think our best bet is Bachmann and Perry shouldn’t be written off. He hasn’t done anything that is unrepairable. All candidates make these mistakes, and then they hopefully learn from them, and go on to do better. If Perry would go to school and brush up on his speaking and world affairs, I think he could pull this out.

[Fantasywriter]

Thanks for confirming that you’re only on FR to tear down conservative candidates.

Unless you have a slew of posts advocating conservative candidates you’re coyly hiding somewhere.

[GlockThe Vote]

Bachmann is getting a lot stronger and so is Hunstman.

There is no perfect one in this race and I dont give a damn about perfection. I want obama gone, and I dont really care who does it at this point!!!

I dont like Newt or Romney at all but will vote for them in the general against Obama.

[Red Steel]

Seems the accusers are pretty adept at hiding the proof too. This has been going on for what now, four weeks? And still not a single shred of evidence. Nothing.

You've touched on the essence of the problem.

The Main Stream Media can trot out any unsubstantiated allegation(s) about lack of character against Conservative candidates and be assured that many Conservatives will jump or be herded like sheep.

We do know that the Main Stream Media is an arm of the Democrat National Committee (DNC), and they will lie to the public, and particularly to the Republicans to get them to react in a way that they think favors the Democrat party.

After many decades of being lied to by the modern liberal media, you would think that the Conservatives would finally get a clue about the game that is being played on them. However, many do, but many still fall for their lying, and some more are just being disingenuous by promoting unsubstantiated allegations as an opportunity to promote their favorite Repub candidate while criticizing the candidate that's being tard. That's being hypocritical.

As I recall, liberal journalist Paul Krugman of the New York Times once boasted that the media is good for 15% more votes over the Republicans for Democrat candidates and their party. That Krugman boast certianly looks like to be a credible boast right now.

[DTxAg]

Yawn. I'm still waiting for you to identify the smears. Where are they? Don't change the subject, back up your statement.

The post that seemed to get your panties in a bunch was this:

BWAHAHAHA! It's the same thing with most true believers who are emotionally invested in a politician. "My guy embodies conservatism! If you don't agree, you aren't really conservative! Go back to DU!"

My attitude towards Cain is that he's a political novice who lacks even a basic understanding of many issues. A lot of times, you get either the blank stare, the "I'm a leader not a reader" type slogan, or the "I'll get all relevant information and have a good staff" type of line. My favorite in the past couple weeks was the claim that a reporter's question on whether Cain agrees with Obama's decision to ease travel restrictions to Cuba was a "gotcha question."

The first half was a criticism of you. The second half was just some of my complaints about Cain. By all means, point out the smear.

[Bidimus1]

Possibly Sir you should take some remedial reading courses.

Note the first word second line of my posting.

“If any of these are true it puts Mr Cain’s ability to understand the political realm in dire question.”

I know its a small word you might have missed it.