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To: Liberty1970
What, according to your scam hypotheses, is Rossi's relationship with Defkalion? Who is running the scam and how?

Does there have to be one? There is about to be a flux of money (device sales), and they both want a cut. Maybe it's just a shell corporation set up by him to create press. Everybody loves a fight. I don't know. What I do know is that cons are time sensitive, and everyone is rushing to sales right now.

The business relationship with Defkalion never really made an sense to me. Do they have any history before Rossi and the e-cat? Much was noise was made about IP protection back in the Defkalion days, but essentially, the device is a tube full of powder with a few electrodes in it. There's absolutely no way to protect it without a rock solid patent, and Rossi can't even describe in detail how it works. I would think the inventor would want to receive some ownership interest in a company for bringing that kind of technology on board. Instead he basically gave it to a nothing company, it makes no sense.

Look I have no pride invested in proving this is a scam, which I now think more than ever that it is. I have chosen to use time as my main tool of proof, and I have plenty of it. If a scam is revealed, I probably won't bother to say "told you so". If it work, I get practically free heat and energy for the rest of my life. Either way I win. 8]

34 posted on 11/29/2011 11:51:34 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Jack of all Trades
What I do know is that cons are time sensitive, and everyone is rushing to sales right now.

I agree with you there, about the time sensitive part. It does make sense that if Defkalion were independent of Rossi (or a 3rd party over them both), and formerly cooperated with Rossi in his scam, they might try to salvage the situation by conducting an operation that looks like what they are doing now. Claim to have independently developed the same tech. and rush to sell it before either they or Rossi are exposed (at which time it's up for everyone involved).

So: IF they announce they have Ecats for sale, we'll have to see whether they offer proof for the operation of their Ecats first, and how any sales are to be structured (such as the claim for Rossi's 1 MW units that money is held in escrow until the buyer is satisfied.)

If they try to offer Ecats for sale based on the shared hype between them and Rossi but without offering their own proof, then the red flags go up. But if they do offer convincing evidence, then that vindicates both them and Rossi.

35 posted on 11/29/2011 12:01:08 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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