No words needed.
Posted on 11/23/2011 6:38:16 AM PST by TheRobb7
Now That We've Crucified Every Candidate, who are we gonna support?
Take a step back and think about it for a moment:
Romney? No, for reasons stated on this site and encoded on our DNA.
Paul? No, unless you're an isolationist.
Perry? Apparently not, since my fellow FReepers appear ready to kill each other at the thought of a Perry nomination.
Santorum or Huntsman? No, because they apparently aren't pure enough either.
Cain? Maybe, but many consider 999 to be 666.
Newt? After last night's debate, FR will lynch the man and serve him on their tables tomorrow...so, no.
That leaves Bachmann, who again isn't pure enough for my fellow FReepers.
So since we insist on nominating a Priest instead of a POTUS, my question to all here is this:
SINCE YOU HAVE CRUCIFIED EVERYONE ON THAT STAGE AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.....WHO WILL YOU SUPPORT?
(or are we hoping that no one will have enough delegates heading into Tampa, thus giving us a nice little floor fight?)
I am still with Herman.
To see him so clearly under attack from both the Left, AND from the Establishment Republicans tells me that he is the right man at the right time.
In response to those who buy into the media meme questioning his preparedness and even his intelligence, I humbly offer BagCamAddict’s reply from the debate thread last night -
“”You know when you assign someone a project or a task to complete, and they come into your office and start giving you excuses about why they didn’t get it done:
“Well it’s not my fault the subcontractor didn’t show up on time. And the product he brought was sub-par, so we had to re-order the supplies, and then we had 3 days of bad weather, and then the Inspector didn’t pass the plumbing....”
And as the Boss or Manager, all you’re thinking is, “I don’t care who’s fault it is and I don’t care about any of these excuses, all I care about is whether the job got done or not.”
So you finally interrupt the guy and cut to the chase and say, “When can you get it done?”
Because the bottom line is, excuses don’t matter. What can you get done, and when?
I think with Cain, what you see (that some perhaps don’t like) is that he boils things down to their most simple elements. And he makes a decision based on that, and then he moves forward. As a CEO, he knows it doesn’t ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING to stand around and talk about the problems ‘till we’re blue in the face, giving excuses about why the project wasn’t done on time. All that matters to Cain is “What are we going to do about it, and when?”
So when you say that “Santorum,(and others) display a depth of knowledge on the issues,” I really think what you’re seeing is that Santorum (and others) can talk about these things all day long. They can talk and talk and talk. What good does it do to TALK? What does it solve to be a good talker? Cain wants to actually DO something, and he doesn’t want to waste his time or ours in talking about it.””
In a general observation on all of the candidates, I will offer something I wrote last night, and shared with a young lady who called from the RNC this morning -
I believe it is extremely important for the Republican candidates to amplify the message the American people have been sending since well before 2010. That the gravy train has jumped the track - for people who are looking for free rides, AND for politicians, (regardless of party), who want to pay for power, using our money to buy votes.
The upshot of that message SHOULD encourage freeriders here to leave, and give those who were considering coming something to think about.
IMHO “Constitutional” candidates who are advancing the idea that securing our borders is too difficult, and are telling us we need to accept these individuals who have broken our laws, are in no way Constitutional candidates. Neither are our “representatives” that are currently “serving” who are continuing to play shell games about “cuts” that are not cuts, and seem to believe that all of us are still quite easily fooled.
We cannot right this ship with the business as usual, good cop/bad cop politics, where the “two parties” are simply different sides of the same coin.
The good news is, that the RNC caller I spoke with just moments ago, said they are hearing the same message from a LOT of the people that they are calling. I pray that it is so.
Sorry for the length, but thanks much for asking FRiend, and giving us all a chance to sort this out in a, (hopefully), reasonable manner.
May God guide our course.
Tatt
Then I support Gingrich until he goes out.
Then I support Romney until Obama beats him.
Why is this so difficult? :)
You are perfectly correct. I was just pointing out the folly of endorsements and I just heard a few minutes ago that Beck is pulling back his favorite status of her because of something she said last night. Sadly I was on the phone at the time he went into an explanation.
I’ll stand on my “feeling” that we need someone as far away from the sphere of influence of the inside the beltway bunch who got us in this mess. Did you notice the crowd of pointy headed intellectuals who did not applaud any talk of limiting the government? I’m sorry, Heritage has done a lot of good, but their existence relies totally on a big government model to keep their cushy titles and jobs. All of these “fellows” asking overly complicated questions to impress others with their “insight” just fortified my view of who we need, not only in the White House, but also in both houses of congress.
“I would deport immediately any illegal who violates the law.”
I support Perry but illegals should be jailed for a long period if they violate the law. And we should use Arpaio style jails for them. Rough.
Correct me if I am wrong, but did he not say that she was the only one he saw to carry his ideals yesterday? Both on his radio show and GBTV he said the same thing. He may have not used the “endorsement” word but lets not get into semantics of being the “only one” he can support as not an endorsement.
999 won't get traction unless it is properly vetted, so it's not anything to worry about. He wants a flat tax anyway — 999 was an interim step because he believed it would be more palatable to the masses to phase into a flat tax.
Even though Cain appears to be polling below Obama in the national polls, they fail to account for this: Cain is only courting the White vote right now. If he wins the Primary, then he'll heavily court the Black vote. He can take 20-30% of the Black vote from Obama, which not only tips the scales of this election, but it creates a paradigm shift in the whole electorate, and the whole concept of the “Democrat Plantation.”
Cain is old-school Black. He is what his generation respects and aspires to. He can get those votes because he has their values.
No words needed.
On a different tack that I saw mentioned upthread, here is my short list, and boy, does it get scary as it nears the bottom : /
1.Cain.
2.Perry.
Battling it out in the lesser of the evils category in third place are Paul : o (his world view scares the heck out of me!), and Newt, who I simply cannot bring myself to have any level of trust in : /
Bachman and Santorum are conservative but I don’t think either is electable.
Huntsman and Romney are simply total and complete RINOs.
There you have it.
May God guide our course.
Tatt
P.S. Always remember that the only way any candidate (I am with you Herman!), can be defeated is if WE abandon him.
I’d rather just get rid of them than have them cluttering up our jails and costing us money.
LLS
Deportation doesn’t work. Jail time eating bologna and wearing pink panties and living in a cold or blistering hot tent for a few years might give them the idea that coming back is not a good idea.
I also support Perry’s idea that he would use troops in Mexico to quell the violence of the cartels. Also some well placed jdams might have a salutary effect on those hosers.
Gingrich/Cain.
I would agree if Beck had not said “I do not endorse”.
Cain, I think embodies the conservative ideals the best. Unfortunately, he is green and not political savvy, has a crappy team at the moment. If he ups his game, I believe he is the one most likely win the primary and to beat Obama.
Right now, it’s still Cain for me. If he would select Newt for VP, I’m ok with that, even though Newt is very much showing his globalist colors and I’d really like to kick his a*^% over this immigration thing.
Cain sticks to the most conservative lines. He also was one of the only ones last night citing GROWTH and economic recovery as necessary for national security.
And face it, if we’re broke, we can forget about remaining any sort of super power.
I think Cain would be the one who would get the most work done. The rest would continue to make political maneuvers, but not necessarily get anything of substance accomplished for the country.
All of that said, My respect for Bachman is increasing. The lady really knows her stuff.
“”This is one year where for the sake of the Nation, beating Obama is more important than ideology.””
AMEN! Couldn’t agree more!!! Let he who is without warts -cast the first stone - LOL!!!
We can’t achieve perfect so let’s stop hitting our heads against a stone wall.
Looking over this thread and being an activist from Iowa who lived in New Hampshire and South Carolina, let me tell you what all your posts mean.
Mitt Romney is going to win with 25% because you 75% will not ever agree.
The Cain haters see an inept fool who has not answered one question directly in a dozen debates and they will never support an intellectual light weight.
The Cain loves are on the train and drunk with the kool aid and exactly like the Paulites will never never never vote for anyone but the Hermonator.
The Bachmann and Santorum folks are your religious conservatives first and fiscal conservatives second and must by faith put their Jesus candidate first. They are not going to switch. If one or the other drops out, or gains a significant lead, they may switch to the other. But they are staying with “Jesus”.
Perry has no fans any more. He is the worse than Fred Thompson, Fred Thompson. He will be dead last in Iowa because Hunstman will not get any votes.
That leaves the last man standing Newt... God help us. He is the most scary because you cannot trust him to DO many of the great things he says need done. And you fear he may actually DO many of the BAD things he has done before.
So, because of these factors, Romney gets 25% in Iowa and wins. He gets 35% in New Hampshire and wins. Since everyone else is all pulling about the same NO ONE drops out.... thus Mitt wins South Carolina. And then Super Teusday and then he is the nominee.
He also LOSES to Obama.
And it is OUR fault.
Again.
“”We can’t achieve perfect”” = We can’t achieve perfection!
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