Self-defense Devices Other Than Guns

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[A Navy Vet]

Things are getting dicey. While some States allow gun open carry and others allow concealed or both, many good folks just don't want to have to carry all the time.

While I wish all good citizens would carry, here is an alternative for those who still would defend themselves and those innocents around them.

[Ditter]

I carry wasp spray in my Tahoe but this stuff looks better. I am going to order some. It will make nice gifts too LOL!

[mylife]

Meat clever

[TigersEye]

Thanks for putting a name to it. Is that Japanese for 'my last nerve snapped?' lol

I did it automatically those two times when I was a kid. Since then I have consciously considered my surroundings in that light and taken note of the anecdotes others have told about weapons of convenience and how to use them. Tools dedicated to the task are great but it's good to consider alternatives.

[voteNRA]

I bought 2 of these and tested one out as well.

Kimber PepperBlaster II

She takes this when jogging because its easier to carry than the mace can.

[TigersEye]

Meet Cleaver.

[heartwood]

Krav Maga is actually a very good art for people who aren’t strong. I’m a small woman, only took a few KM classes because it was too far away, but in terms of self defense it’s a lot more practical than most karate classes. And the instructors take your size and strength into account and teach you techniques you can actually carry off.

Anyway, if I ever have to fight, I’ll figure my opponent is deterred if he’s running away or incapacitated. Anything less than my utmost might not be enough, my utmost might not be enough, so why do less?

Best thing I ever learned from martial arts was that it’s better to avoid fights. Deterrence is awareness, trusting your instincts, avoiding risky situations, carrying yourself with alert confidence.

[CIBvet]

Check out this cool little tool ... SureFire E2D LED Defender, Dual Output

First LED setting is for 15 lumens, normal use ... then hit the switch for 200 lumens !!! to blind an aggressive individual, and if the situation continues to escalate, a solid rap to the forehead with the serrated/crenellated Strike Bezel will send enough blood pouring into the perps eyes to neutralize most events.

[Ditter]

I like the fact that it won’t blow back in your face. A friends husband was out on the end of his drive and his dog was with him. A jogger ran by and I guess he thought the dog was going to chase him (it didn’t) but he sprayed the dog. It blew into the man’s and he had such a bad reaction his wife had to take him to the ER.

[A Navy Vet]

That gel thing sounds pretty good. My problem with pepper spray was about being an aerosol that could come back in your face or the wind blow it away from the attacker.

Does it shoot out in a stream like wasp spray? If so, that could be really nasty.

[The Cajun]

Couldn't find a picture of old Paladin using pepper spray or a taser, but the thread is an excuse for a FReepathon bump:

It's not like we have Paladin from the old "Have Gun Will Travel" asking for donations............Just saying.

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[voteNRA]

That was my deciding factor in going with the gel. I kept picturing her in a dangerous situation and not being able to flee after the fact or even see what was going on.

The gel coated the melon I sprayed at about 10 feet with no "mist" in the air.

[voteNRA]

"Does it shoot out in a stream like wasp spray? If so, that could be really nasty."

Kind of, it sprays out directly and splats over its target. For lack of a better description, I would almost compare it to "silly string" but with much more force behind it.

[bunkerhill7]

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[A Navy Vet]

“He means, you are mentally-trained to take out your opponent, without hesitation or concer for his well being.”

Got it, thanks. Having grown up on the streets of LA and living in cars and garages and 11 years Navy and biker before and after, I have no problem with hesitation. Guess that’s why I’m still around at 61.

Had my confrontations (think Satan’s Slaves 1%) and my lumps. Got my ass kicked a couple times but did well with throat pressure a couple other times. Like an earlier poster mentioned about the benefits of Krav maga, it came naturally to me since I’m not a big guy.

Now too old for that...they get zapped.

[JSteff]

Bear Spray.
There has not been a case of it failing to stop ANY bear... it is amazingly effective. Breathing hurts, your eyes hurt, it can make you sick (probably from the heavy runny mucus that occurs immediately after getting sprayed with it)
Good up to 30 or so feet, but don't spray it in an enclosed room unless you have an exit pre-planned.
Works on nearly all animals, including I have heard, alligators.

Oh, and it is a nearly completely harmless chemical wise, it is made of the active ingredient in peppers. Water gets rid of it and it is gone.

Trust me though, you (or your adversary) will need a lot water.. a shower is best.
But figure anyone sprayed directly with it for about an hour is effectively out of action.

[Southack]

For alternatives to fire-arms, consider:
#1: cable belt. Steel cable is purchased at Home Depot. Attach hooks or buckle+clasp. Wear in place of leather belt around your waist. Unhook and swing to use. Holds up your pants when not in combat use.
#2: kevlar. Used police body armor sells for as little as $50 per panel online. Don’t forget your defense!
#3: deer urine. Purchased at any hunting store. Break the glass and no one will be able to breath within 20 feet.
#4: sling shot. Every rock or piece of broken concrete/brick is your ammo. Never run out of “bullets.”
#5: pepper spray. Doesn’t have a problem with battery life as do stun guns. Doesn’t have a problem with being recovered after dropped into water as do stun guns.
#6: ice pick. Cheap. Easy to conceal. Utterly deadly.
#7: Walking stick. Alternative: umbrella.
#8: horse whip.
#9: caltrops. Alternatives: throwing stars, throwing knives, and boomerangs.
10: box cutter.

Honorable mention: large attack dogs

[Cvengr]

A Pocket Tribuchet????

[NoLibZone]

Bump for later

[JSteff]

Does it shoot out in a stream like wasp spray? If so, that could be really nasty.

Yes, if it was a harmful chemical like what is in Wasp spray it would be something to be worried about.
But it is only the active ingredient in well, peppers.
It can be washed off with water and have no long term effects.

But for about an hour those sprayed directly will not be doing anything to harm you or yours.. even polar bears.

The rules for spraying it are pretty much like spitting or peeing... never into the wind or a small enclosed space. I seen the effects and sort of gotten sprayed with it (by accident). My wife tried it out in the house one night while I was not there...
The amount in the air was crippling. So I opened the doors and windows and when around with a water sprayer and "misted" the stuff in the air. Took about 15 minutes but was cleared out.. lots of red droplets every where though.
So the other rule is like using a gun, don't spray it at anything you don't want to neutralize. Short directed bursts, aimed at the face and upper body of those you want to neutralize.

[MARTIAL MONK]

Holds up your pants when not in combat use.

And when it is in use yo' britches is around yo' ankles.