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1 MW E-Cat Cold Fusion Device Test Successful
Pure Energy Systems ^ | October 28, 2011 | Hank Mills

Posted on 10/28/2011 10:59:24 PM PDT by Kevmo



1 MW E-Cat Cold Fusion Device Test Successful
On October 28, 2011, Andrea Rossi demonstrated his 1 megawatt E-Cat system to his first customer, who had engineers/scientists on hand to test/validate its performance. Due to a glitch, it provided 470 kW of continuous power for 5.5 hours during the self-sustained mode.
Here I am with Andrea Ross after the test of the 1 MW E-Cat plant in the background.


By Sterling D. Allan (who was present), with Hank Mills
Pure Energy Systems News
Well, the big day has come and gone. Andrea Rossi's one-megawatt-capable E-Cat cold fusion device has been tested in Bologna, Italy; and the unknown customer, who ran the test, is apparently happy.


There were some issues, so it couldn't be run at full power in self-looped mode, but what it did do was plenty impressive.


It ran for 5.5 hours producing 470 kW, while in self-looped mode. That means no substantial external energy was required to make it run, because it kept itself running, even while producing an excess of nearly half a megawatt. Rossi explained the reasons for this in the presentation he gave, which I videotaped and will be posting later.


That's half the rated capacity, but it is still a major accomplishment for the device that was completed earlier this week -- the first of its kind on the planet.


Early in the day with a glitch showing up, Rossi said that they had to make a decision about whether to go for 1 MW output, not in self-sustain mode, or with self-sustain mode at a lower power level. The customer opted to go for the self-sustain mode. Nothing was said about the prospects of a follow-up test, though I would imagine that the customer will be running many tests to understand this gadget they have purchased, and that information will be conveyed to Rossi.


When I asked him during the Q&A session if the customer was satisfied with the test, Rossi responded, "Yes, I think they are satisfied."

Here is a brief video excerpt highlight from Rossi during his 1-hour reading of the public report from the customer, followed by a question and answer session. I recorded the entire presentation, and we'll post that tomorrow, hopefully along with a transcription. Half the time was in Italian, as he would address each item in Italian as well as English.


In this excerpt, Rossi responds to the question, "So, is this a breakthrough?"





Here's a transcription of the excerpt video:
Mister Sonya has asked me if I think that the test of today is a breakthrough. I think yes, because I think today we have seen enough. No more small five or ten kilowatt units, but now we have overcame the [cannot understand].... disconnected. The basic engineering to make something that....

You know, to go in self sustain mode and make 400 [actually 470] kilowatt hours per hour... To understand that this is a breakthrough...

You can also think that hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent to try to have a COP of 1.1 with nuclear fusion. Today we have made a theoretically endless COP making 470 kilowatt hour per hour of completely free energy, free of fuel. Yes, I think this is a breakthrough.

Of course this is the first step, but it is a very important first step....
Early this year Andrea Rossi announced his plans to construct and test the world's first one megawatt cold fusion plant. The plant would utilize his E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer) technology that utilizes tiny quantities of nickel powder and hydrogen gas as fuel, while producing large amounts of energy in the form of heat. Importantly, the energy is produced without emitting any pollution, utilizing any radioactive materials, or producing any nuclear waste. Simply put, the E-Cat offers the world a source of cheap, safe, and clean energy. Although the exact plans for the launch of the technology were adjusted a few times throughout the course of this year, October 28th, 2011 was settled on for the date of the official test of the one megawatt plant by the first customer.


These first plants will cost around $2,000 per kilowatt to build one at a time, but once they are mass produced, Rossi expects the price to drop to around $100 per kilowatt installed.


Attendance at this test was limited for several reasons. First, the customer does not wish to be known at this time, nor to have its test engineers/scientists identified. I did not inadvertently discover the customer's identify, nor did I try to find out. I gave that group their space and did not probe. Second, the device is a nuclear device, and the regulations for a public demonstration are extremely stringent; so by making the event private, and only bringing one or two at a time to see it was a way to get around the safety requirements.


Most of us (around 30 guests total) arrived between 9 and 10 am; and by around 11 am, Rossi began taking people back to see the device while it was in operation, in self-sustained mode. Here's a video I shot, with Rossi's permission, during my 2-3 minute chance to see the unit during operation:


A neighboring facility, coincidentally, is named "Rossi", which is a common name in Italy.



Here I am with Mats Lewan and other Swedish associates.


Here I am with Peter Svensson from the AP

Professor Levi, who was Rossi's right-hand man today, will be heading the Bologna research on the E-Cat. Power for start-up (resistive coils that provided heat to the reaction chambers) was provided by the large and loud genset (was making all the noise) you see that is nearly as large as the small shipping container in which the 1 MW E-Cat plant was arranged. Once the reaction chambers got up to temperature, they were maintained by the heat produced by the reaction. I'm not sure why they kept the generator running after that, but I would guess it was for back-up or safety. I'm sure the engineers testing the system made sure what the power levels were at all times.


There were 100 E-Cat modules, each with 3 reaction chambers in them, for a total of 300 reaction chambers. An additional 20 or so units had been installed on the top of the shipping container, compared to the earlier photos and videos we had seen. Steam was produced by the units and exited through the back in the bottom of the two pipes. The steam was not put to use to run a load but the heat was dumped via two radiators, distilled, and circulated back into the system. When looking inside the plant, I noticed that one of the E-Cat units had a little steam escaping from the front of it.


The top pipe in the back, which was closed, was for emergency cool-down, if needed.

Each unit was run independently through a computerized control. The input and output temperature readings were recorded by computer, and the data will be provided to us probably later this evening or tomorrow morning. When I went by there, I think the input was measuring 19 C, and the output was 109 C.


Radiation measurements were taken by Dr. Bianchini David, from the University of Bologna. He said no extraneous radiation was detected at any time emanating from the reaction chambers, or from the piping, or from the water tanks, or in the vicinity of the apparatus. Apparently, gamma radiation is produced during the reaction, which is shielded by water, iron, lead, and a final coating on the apparatus. David said that he has not measured gamma radiation from the device, because he has not had access to the reaction chamber while it has been unshielded.


None of the units were taken apart following this test, as was the one back on the October 6 test. I asked Rossi whether any radio frequencies were used in the test, and he said "no".


I would estimate that there were about 12 people assisting with the test arrangement, including: 3-4 security guards, 1 caterer, 2 receptionists who checked to make sure everyone was invited and wore the required badges, 3-4 engineers helping take measurements, Foccardi was helping take guests 1-2 at a time back to see the unit.


I especially enjoyed mingling with the other guests, including: Mats Lewan from NyTeknik; Irene Zreick from Focus.it; Peter Svensson, Technology Writer for the Associated Press, NY, who told me that the reason the mainstream press hasn't been covering this is because Rossi has been very picky about who he lets in; Enrico Billi, a nuclear physicist and friend of Rossi's, who is presently living in China and helping to open doors there for this technology; Professor Christos Stremmenos, from the University of Bologna, who told me all about his theory of how the technology works; Pierre Clauzon, nuclear engineering professor from France, who told me about several theoretical physicists trying to understand cold fusion in general and the E-Cat in particular; Uzikova Irina, a nuclear plant designer from Russia; Stefan Heglesson, representing a Swedish interest in the technology; Loris Ferrari, Associate Professor of Condensed Matter Physics from the University of Bologna, who will be one of the five professors to do the two year test of the E-Cat, which hopefully will be funded as a result of today's test. They will study both the "how" and the "why" of the technology.


Mats and I agreed to post our stories at the same time. Peter was going to go first, having been given an exclusive by Rossi, but it's going to be a few days before he gets the necessary info and editorial approvals before he's able to run a story in the Associated Press.

Probably the biggest opening for skeptics will be the continually running genset that is probably rated for 500 kW (my guess), and appears to have been connected by cables to the E-Cat. "Where's the mystery?" So knock yourselves out, skeptics. It's the customer who has to be happy, and apparently this one was satisfied that those cables were not contributing to the 470 kW output during self-sustaining mode.


Here's a video where Rossi talks to us briefly following the test, saying that a report will come shortly; and giving us the reason for why we couldn't go back during the test except 1-2 at a time.

And here's a video of a couple of 1 MW generators that were in the room where we were hanging out, which were from an earlier project Rossi was involved with, running on biofuel.

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Links
News:October 28, 2011 Test of the One Megawatt E-Cat (Our index page at PESWiki)
http://db.tt/wu4OLbgk - a link to download a file which contains the report about the test
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3303682.ece - Mat Lewans' story





TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: cmns; coldfusion; ecat; lenr
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To: count-your-change

I have offered to post the same information that these seagulls are posting. Then they would have no reason to seagull onto the threads. But the answer to the offer is silence, because they would prefer to seagull onto the threads and stifle discussion.

So, yeah, someone else IS to be blamed. Absolutely FReeping right.


221 posted on 10/30/2011 12:00:51 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Post Toasties

Rossi can tell. Everyone involved knows it’s a LENR device.

I am the one who is a proponent of calling it something else, not Rossi.

Even though everyone knows it’s a LENR device, that doesn’t mean you have to call it a nuclear device because the Nukular Experts swear up & down that such a device ain’t possible, so then just let it be called a chemical device and be done with it.


222 posted on 10/30/2011 12:04:26 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: aNYCguy
A businessman with a history of fraud and a fake degree

can you point me toward a source for this? I know nothing about any of this..... have no axe to grind........but Im skeptical

223 posted on 10/30/2011 12:05:26 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: count-your-change

Who are you to personally insult anyone?
***You mean that being called a seagull is a personal insult? Why am I being told I must have a thick skin if these flying rats don’t have a thick skin themselves?

If it posts like a seagull, acts like a seagull, reasons like a seagull, and does its ‘business’ like a seagull, it’s probably a seagull.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test


224 posted on 10/30/2011 12:08:25 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

I received this reply from a friend. I had asked him what he thought of Rossi and his work.

Two physicists I respect — one an old friend from Princeton who passed away recently and another who is the Vice-Provost for Research at U. Missouri — both believe that cold fusion effects are real. However, both are skeptical that sufficient energy can be produced for practical purposes, at least with current technology. U. Missouri has invested a great deal of money in trying to turn the basic science and the clear (but modest) heat production into something that might be ready to commercialize, and I know that the Italian government has been investing in cold fusion as well. But, I can’t say anything else until I see what Rossi has.


225 posted on 10/30/2011 12:15:01 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: editor-surveyor
The inventor would have to be a fool to reveal even a shred of the physics to the non-paying observers (us).

Not saying Rossi is a fool. He's got his probably non-existent 'customer' to reveal his probably fraudulent 'invention's' details to.

See how neatly that works out?

226 posted on 10/30/2011 12:15:25 AM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name.)
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To: count-your-change
Here's something interesting. I just noticed that the wikipedia entries for the e-cat, and a related page for Rossi himself appear to have been recently scrubbed of embarrassing material that details Rossi’s dubious past and questions his scientific credentials. For example, material regarding a Kensington University that Rossi claims a degree from was forced to cease business in California when it was revealed to be basically a mail order diploma mill. That information was there up to a week or so ago, but is now mysteriously gone.
227 posted on 10/30/2011 12:19:15 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: dangerdoc
We are talking about a fusion device that requires electricity for internal pumping and preheating. There were people happy if the machine could put out ten units of heat for one unit of electricity. We are discussing fusion not over unity devices

I'm sorry, but your point (if there is one) is lost on me.

228 posted on 10/30/2011 12:47:30 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: SpaceBar; Kevmo

I came a cross the Kensington University stuff on google ....it does not look good

any sources for legit info on Rossi ?


229 posted on 10/30/2011 12:47:54 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: aNYCguy

Your long post to me is entertaining; watching someone make an ass of himself is always entertaining, and looks like a major defamation of Rossi as well, but it really has nothing whatsoever to do with my post and in no way answers me point, which simply is that the laws of physics cannot be violated, despite the ignorant notions bandied about on this thread by folks sympathetic to your point of view.


230 posted on 10/30/2011 12:57:51 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Kevmo
Rossi does not have a history of fraud.

Sure he does. You're never going to face the obvious on his broad Petroldragon fraud, but I assume you don't dispute that he was convicted on multiple counts of tax fraud.

By the way, linking to a story about Andrea Rossi downplaying his criminal history that is written by Andrea Rossi is a funny move, no matter how reliable a news source you consider the blog where it was "published."

I have not checked into the accusation of a fake degree.

I find myself entirely unsurprised. His "degree" in chemical engineering is from Kensington University, a fake school in california with no classrooms or classes, that was shut down by the authorities in 2003.

LENR does not contravene the laws of physics.

Sorry, I'm going to have to go with the massive anti-cold-fusion conspiracy we call "mainstream physics" on this one.
231 posted on 10/30/2011 12:58:14 AM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: John Valentine
but it really has nothing whatsoever to do with my post and in no way answers me point, which simply is that the laws of physics cannot be violated

Oh, I don't really care about your insistence earlier in the thread that one joule is less than ten joules, and energy is conserved. I'm well aware of all that.

I thought it was abundantly clear that I was responding to your unrelated claim that this comedic opera must be legitimate because Rossi's likely-nonexistent secret customer is surely a clever guy who gets to the bottom of things.

I thought it might be particularly clear since my response to you quoted your claim that this comedic opera must be legitimate because Rossi's likely-nonexistent secret customer is surely a clever guy who gets to the bottom of things.
232 posted on 10/30/2011 1:11:56 AM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: aNYCguy

Kevmo: Rossi does not have a history of fraud.

NYCdude: Sure he does. You’re never going to face the obvious on his broad Petroldragon fraud, but I assume you don’t dispute that he was convicted on multiple counts of tax fraud.
***Ok, I do not dispute the tax fraud, so I will need to withdraw my assertion. The way I think of it is that he did not go to jail for defrauding customers in scams. Tax fraud is something that I just don’t think of as in the same league. I know a couple of guys here in the states that have run afoul of the IRS and it was not fraud, even though the IRS says it was. So my new, couched, assertion is that he has not gone to jail for defrauding others in a scam. He’s been to jail for stuff like not cleaning up a toxic waste site properly (the rules changed on him) and basically the stuff delineated in that article.

By the way, linking to a story about Andrea Rossi downplaying his criminal history that is written by Andrea Rossi is a funny move, no matter how reliable a news source you consider the blog where it was “published.”
***So, you do not consider an enemy of Rossi to be a reliable source of his criminal history? What if I went to your enemy and said, “Did NYCGUY go to prison for molesting his neighbor’s daughter?” and your enemy, who really dislikes you and would love to see you go down for such a thing says, “No, it was because he didn’t pay his taxes properly, some SNAFU with the IRS.” When your enemies acknowledge certain factual claims, those are the facts on the ground. It is a simple rule of inductive reasoning, and courts of law will follow it as an established practice.

Sorry, I’m going to have to go with the massive anti-cold-fusion conspiracy we call “mainstream physics” on this one.
***Too lazy to read up on the Widom-Larson theory, huh? Well, you said you wanted to get it straight, but it turns out all you want to do is paint with a black brush.


233 posted on 10/30/2011 1:14:54 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: woofie; Kevmo
Looks like you've already found the Kensingon University stuff. The fraud was related to his company Petroldragon that was supposed to turn liquid toxic waste products into clean fuel through a process we call "magic." But he was found to be storing the waste products onsite and involved in some sort of precious metals smuggling that earned him convictions on five counts of tax fraud. The company had its assets seized and was liquidated.

The Italian Wikipedia entry for Petroldragon has links to Italian newspaper articles on this, but since we're all here for good fun I'll link you to Andrea Rossi's own take on things that Kevmo posted: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/RossiPetroldragonStory.shtml

According to Rossi, the mafia and the government colluded to ruin him. I eagerly await the movie based on his autobiography.

Kevmo, you've been pinged for courtesy. I hope we can all have a beer and a laugh when Rossi goes to jail on his second continent.
234 posted on 10/30/2011 1:35:28 AM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: Kevmo

Pretty neat stuff if it all pans out.


235 posted on 10/30/2011 1:42:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I guess some Occupiers are more 99% than other Occupiers.)
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To: aNYCguy; woofie

At this point I think it’s inductively obvious that Rossi has a Diploma Mill degree from Kensington. He brushed it off by saying it’s an honorary degree, but that strikes me as bowl sheet. Rossi also has some sort of legitimate fluffy non-science degree.


236 posted on 10/30/2011 1:55:16 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: SpaceBar
I wouldn't be surprised if the embarrassing background has been scrubbed. It's about time to produce The Story, some official script to read from. But that's Wikipedia.
237 posted on 10/30/2011 3:27:47 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Kevmo
Did you read the LINK I referenced earlier in this thread? ***No.

It’s a very interesting story, ***Not interesting enough for me to click on it.

That's the closed-minded attitude I would expect from a "true believer".
238 posted on 10/30/2011 3:38:44 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

in Bologna?
in Bologna??
As in “what-a-buncha?”


239 posted on 10/30/2011 4:07:16 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Kevmo
At this point I think it’s inductively obvious that Rossi has a Diploma Mill degree from Kensington. He brushed it off by saying it’s an honorary degree, but that strikes me as bowl sheet.
So, you admit that he's lying about his credentials, but you have no trouble believing everything he says about his E-Cat, even though, when you eliminate Rossi's unsubstantiated claims, there's nothing left.

I guess denial is as powerful a force as greed.

240 posted on 10/30/2011 4:20:31 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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