An Intro to Linux Distros and Live CDs

Linuxaria ^ | 23 October 2011 | linuxari

[Betis70]

I tried LFS a few years back. I must have missed something in the process as I didn’t get it to work. Went back to debian, but might try again at LFS.

I use my linux machine as a test server, nothing too radical.

[JRandomFreeper]

But the big question is "Does kuickshow work?" Because for scanning, sorting, and viewing the thousands of family photos, all the other .jpg viewers injest vacuum for my needs. So I'll stick with 11.1 on my personal box. even if I have to manually mount /proc/bus/usb to get the GPS to work.

/johnny

[Bidimus1]

Linux may be a good OS but the lack of standardization is a crippling issue.

as for me I have MINT running on old P4 for YouTube etc on my big screen TV.

for a starter Linux PUPPY is good esp on older Pc’s (it does have some probs with WPA2 networks)

[DJ MacWoW]

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[martin_fierro]

[shorty_harris]

I’ve slowly been switching over from linux to Mac OSX. I don’t like the Ubuntu Unity interface, and I have to keep a windows XP virtual machine on my linux computer just to use my scanner. Seems like too much work these days...maybe I’m getting too old. Soon I’ll be buying a new iMac, and I’ll retire the old linux computer.

[fremont_steve]

One “fact” in the article is incorrect - Live CD’s have been around since 1995ish - Yggdrasil was the first such entry. For those who don’t like to “update” the real problem I’ve had personally is hacked systems. I’ve had a system up and running exposed to the internet hacked twice. It had ftp and http deamons exposed - and these were used as infestation vectors. I’ve found if I do an update about once a year, this tends to not be a real problem.

Over the years I’ve moved from SLS to Slackware to Suse to Ubuntu. I’ve tried many - I’m not real keen on Unity at the moment, and prefer Gnome-2 mostly because it ISN’T that different from what I expect. I have Unity up at home, and Gnome-2 at work.

Unity also had real stability issues on bleeding edge Intel hardware like Sandybridge that was one of my problems with it.

[Conan the Librarian]

I have Knoppix (debian) on a USB drive that works great. I just save anything I need on another USB.

Saved my butt when the hard disk in my laptop died.

[jjsheridan5]

I have ubuntu on one of my computers. Very sluggish (I forget which GUI I have). Anyway, I am looking for a command-line only distro. The main requirement is speed. The only app I run on it is CherryPy. I would also love a replacement for vi (no matter how much I use it, I can never remember how to do anything with it, without the cheat sheet), but don’t want to have to run a GUI.

Any suggestions?

[Bikkuri]

I have been away from Linux for almost 10 years now.. Didn’t like the Red Hat back then, so I went back to Win..

A couple of months ago I went the easy path and DL/Installed UBUNTU on my laptop. I have had no problems with it so far.. but after advice from a friend in Holland, I searched and found ‘CentOS-6.0-i386-LiveDVD’...

I have not messed with it yet, so I have no idea how it looks.

I am worried that it will be FAR off from the midway point (UBUNTU - Win)..

I used to use unix (decades ago), but I don’t remember the commands.. I at least remember most DOS commands :D

Anyway, any advice on whether I should try it out or not?

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Probably heresy to say this - but although I like LiveCD’s as rescue disks - the idea that you slap a LiveCD into a disk drive and then find out if you “like” a distro or no - to me doesn’t really make sense.

Whether I like a distro has to do with how it feels to live with the actual distro - set it up to do real work - a Live CD “test drive” will show you what the user experience “feels like” - but not sure I buy how useful that is in real life.

YMMV.

[shorty_harris]

What I do (or used to do) is install the distro as a virtual machine using Virtualbox. That’s closer to “real” than a live CD.

[re_nortex]

I’ve explored Linux From Scratch, but it’s been several years. Has it gotten any easier?

Easier?

NO! :-)

Like the Grumpy Old Man on SNL, that's part of the reason I like it. While not exactly like climbing Mt. Everest, the challenge of Linux from Scratch is why I find it worthwhile. I'm a software developer in real life so LFS helps me keep my skills sharp (in my advancing years) as I untangle the things that don't quite work (such as Linux PAM with the recent glibc-2.14 which has deprecated Sun's RPC). It'd never recommend it for a Linux newcomer or for those who don't enjoy tweaking or get easily discouraged.

That said, the LFS documentation is beyond excellent. If you follow the steps to the letter without any deviation, you'll have a fine, working system. As opposed to a pre-packaged distro, I think the LFS docs are so good because they have to be! It also like LFS because it's in the spirit of early Linux as Linus Torvalds wrote back in 1991: "...do you pine for the days when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?"

[MarineBrat]

After a (cross country) family member had a rootkit/trojan on their PC last week, and I “theoretically” got rid of it for them, I suggested to them they create a bootable Linux CD to use for online banking. I decided to test one here, so I downloaded Ubuntu 11.10 and created the disk. I booted my Win7 x64 laptop to the disk and tried it out for a while.

When I rebooted to Win7 it was royally pi**ed about something, and insisted on “recovering” by restoring a system restore. During the time I was running the Ubuntu disk I never once asked it to modify my existing partition.

Now I’m trying to locate a decent bootable Linux disk that can be simply used for online banking purposes, that will guarantee to not touch any existing partitions. Ubuntu has me gun shy.

[Steely Tom]

I just went through a terrible experience with a certain flavor of Linux that is distributed by a used-to-be-well-known company that was the original pioneer of computer networking. I'll not give the name of the company, but I will say that the first letter of it's name is "N".

This distro was so trouble-ridden, so messed up, so full of misbegotten cybernetic dreck, that it cost me two consecutive all-nighters to do something that literally took all of thirty seconds once I blew it off my new Dell server and installed a totally free alternative distro.

I will give the name of the alternative that has now made me very happy and made the learning of wonderful, fascinating Linux the enjoyable experience it should be.

Ubuntu.

[MarineBrat]

To answer my own problem from above.... I discovered this...

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lps
http://www.spi.dod.mil/lipose.htm

Will burn it and see how it goes.

[ShadowAce]

I believe that most Red Hat-compatible distros would work. Customize the install to not install X or any desktop Managers, and it should boot directly into a CLI.

I don't know if the Ubuntu family can customize the install to do that.

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Totally agree - this makes way more sense to me.

[ShadowAce]

Anyway, any advice on whether I should try it out or not?

Would it hurt to try it?

I don't know what you didn't like about RH 10 years ago, so I can't help you out. However, it has made great strides in those 10 years, and won;t be anything like you remember it.

[ShadowAce]

This distro was so trouble-ridden, so messed up, so full of misbegotten cybernetic dreck, that it cost me two consecutive all-nighters to do something that literally took all of thirty seconds once I blew it off my new Dell server and installed a totally free alternative distro.

That what happens when you partner with Microsoft. :)