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Did ATF still walk guns under F&F after Agent Terry was murdered? (Vanity)
10/23/2011 | Myself

Posted on 10/23/2011 11:27:01 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote

I have been following F&F as much as anyone.

But I need help from some Freepers on this.

Do we know yet when the last gun was "walked" under the ATF F&F program?

I want to know if after ATF learned that Agent Terry was killed with F&F guns if they still kept walking guns over the border.

There are so many damn unanswered questions on this its not funny.

Thanks for the help in advance.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; obama; statedept

1 posted on 10/23/2011 11:27:04 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

My question is: Was Agent Terry set up to be murdered?

There have been reports of agents being given a hard time when they objected to F&F. How much did Agent Terry know? Did he complain to any of his coworkers?


2 posted on 10/23/2011 12:28:57 PM PDT by abclily
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To: abclily

Terry was an ICE Agent right? So there is a good chance he did not even know of this crazy scam.


3 posted on 10/23/2011 12:45:28 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Brian Terry was a CBP agent.
One of the least corrupted Federal agencies.
ICS, ATF, DEA, FBI and most if not all of the alphabet agencies have been politically corrupted.A few individual agents of each agency have been bribed, but it a damned few.
CBP seems to be the exception. Maybe because they are on the front lines and see the shit every day.
As for this crime my guess is the odds of Agent Terry knowing about it were probably 100 to 1 or more.


4 posted on 10/23/2011 12:57:56 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: Tupelo

What i am trying figure out is if they kept walking guns after they knew the guns used to kill Terry were F&F realated?

Obviously when Dodson went public TSHTF, I am trying to figure out what occured between Terrys’ murder and Dodson going forward.


5 posted on 10/23/2011 1:04:14 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Not to be “smart”, but “this is important” - why ?

If you’ve been following this story line you have to know there’s the distinct probability the OA ran numerous similar ops - under a variety of names - in various states. There’s no reason to suppose all of them were “shut down” in the time frame you suggest. FAWK, they could be “operating” today !

IMO the homicide of Brian Terry, (and the subsequent maltreatment of his family by the USG, denying them “victim status” ) was only one stage of a multi-stage explosion that’s slowly spreading across the nation. I’m reminded of a vaguely recalled adage. “From little lie’s seeds, great embarassment grows !” >PS


6 posted on 10/23/2011 3:29:25 PM PDT by PiperShade
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Glock the Vote needs Freeper input on Gunwalker!


7 posted on 10/23/2011 3:32:02 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I don’t know if any additional gunwalking still happened after the murder, but Sipsey Street is working on a story about what took place that day in Peck Canyon where Brian Terry was murdered.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/10/where-we-are-with-gunwalker-and-why-im.html

We may glean more information from that.


8 posted on 10/23/2011 8:37:46 PM PDT by bergmeid
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Did ATF still walk guns under F&F after Agent Terry was murdered? (Vanity)

Need FReeper input, please.

. . . . Article and # 2 , # 6 , # 8 .

Goosebumps at # 2.

9 posted on 10/23/2011 11:19:28 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

I suspect this has many more levels than just walking guns to drug cartels.

It has been known for some time that high level government “personages”, very powerful people, are deeply involved in the drug smuggling business.

The Sinaloa cartel uses most of the smuggling routes through Arizona; that state wanted to secure their border and the Obama Administration stopped them with a court order. This directly benefits the Nation of Islam, in Chicago, which uses its so-called religous buildings for stashing drugs.

So - who in our government, who in the Mexican government, and how many fat-cat businessmen and holy-rollers are getting rich of the deaths and misery of millions?

Most importantly, are they concerned in the least that the whole situation could erupt into a hot war along the border?


10 posted on 10/23/2011 11:54:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: abclily

This seems to be the question that many people, including his close coworkers are asking. Furthermore, it is believed that Jaime Zapata, an undercover ICE agent working IN Mexico who was also murdered with ‘walked’ guns, was outed and set up for murder as well.


11 posted on 10/24/2011 12:13:05 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: SatinDoll

I am sure that many US politicians get kickbacks from laundered money and are loathe to stop the drug trade/cartels.

Time for pitchforks, torches, tare and feathers.


12 posted on 10/24/2011 8:02:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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