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To: muir_redwoods; SkyPilot
"So if complex structures, by their very complexity, require a designer, tell me who designed the designer?"

It is obvious that your question only applies to 'designers' that are constrained by the dimension of time. (i.e., 'natural designers' such as evolution, extraterrestrials, etc.) Further, you can only exclude an 'unconstrained designer' by assuming naturalism 'a priori'; but that is a philosophical choice, not a logical conclusion.

IOW... while you have designed your question to appear logical it is actually firmly rooted in fallacy.

Make sense?

12 posted on 10/16/2011 7:38:27 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan; SkyPilot; mountainlion; muir_redwoods

The ex cathedra claim that a designer is required is also a priori, and by that standard has nothing to do with logic.

The Religion forum here on FR is the best place to have those kinds of discussions.


23 posted on 10/16/2011 7:59:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GourmetDan

Not the least bit of sense, but thanks for trying.


33 posted on 10/16/2011 8:13:54 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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