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To: Pharmboy
FTR, there is no town or city named "Saratoga" in the State of NY.

ML/NJ

3 posted on 10/04/2011 9:09:41 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
FTR, there is no town or city named "Saratoga" in the State of NY.

Try Saratoga Springs at www.saratoga.com

6 posted on 10/04/2011 9:20:06 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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To: ml/nj
FTR, there is no town or city named "Saratoga" in the State of NY.

Hmmmmmmm...

12 posted on 10/04/2011 9:25:44 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: ml/nj

True enough...Saratoga was changed to Saratoga Springs a while back, I believe for commercial purposes.


13 posted on 10/04/2011 9:26:19 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Austrian achievement: convincing world that Hitler was German and Beethoven Austrian)
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To: ml/nj

There was a Dutch blockhouse there a defensive position, in the 17th Century- and it was known as SARATOGA right up to and after Burgoyne`s defeat.
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1690 July 30 “...the Yankees with the Dutch troops collected at Albany and from down the Hudson set out from Albany...we marched forwards and quartered this night at a place called Saratoga, about 50 miles from Albany, where there is a blockhouse and some of the Dutch soldiers.” Gen. Fitz-John Winthrop went up Lake George, through Ticonderoga and Lake Champlain with 515 men, including 100 N.A.’s, to attack Montreal. - 86 102”Brodhead’s Colonial Documents”, Vol. III, pp.801-802, ‘Major Peter Schuyler’s Journal of His Expedition to Canada ‘, “Board of Trade Papers”, II, in London

“A modest and true realtion or journal of the sundry accidents happening to Major Schuyler and the party of Christians and Indians under his command in their Expediton CANADA ANNO DUI 1691 and their successe and victory...June the 21st 1691, we sett out from Albany...9th [July 1691] came Gerrard Luykasse and Hermann Vedder with two Mohawks from a party of 80 Mohawks at a lake right over Saragntoga [sic], who went by the way of Lake St. Sackraman [sic] and promised to meet us six days in Chinandroga [Ticonderoga].102 102”Brodhead’s Colonial Documents”, Vol. III, pp.801-802, ‘Major Peter Schuyler’s Journal of His Expedition to Canada ‘, “Board of Trade Papers”, II, in London

1745 November 4 A force under command of M. Marin of 280 Frenchmen and 229 N.A.’s left Montreal and arrived in Crown Point on the 13th of November. They headed south and
attacked Fort Edward and Saratoga, returning to Fort St. Frederick. 131 131Brandow, pp.31-38; “Documents Relative to the Colonial History of N.Y.”, Vol. X, p. 39, p.76; Vol. VI, p.288, Schuyler, G.W., “Colonial History of New York”, Vol. II

1746 September: Raiding parties from Fort St. Frederick were attacking south of Lake George around Saratoga. 135 135”Documents Relative to the Colonial History of New York”, Vol. X, p. 59, p.75

1747 June 23 The French commander dispatched M. de la Corne St. Luc with 20 Frenchmen and 200 Abenakis from Fort St. Frederick to strike below Lake George. “June 23d. Started
from Fort St. Federick at midnight for Sarastau [Saratoga] to endeavor to find an opportunity
to strike some good blow on the English or Dutch garrison at Fort Klincton [sic], as they called it.” 137 137“Doc. Relative to the Colonial Hist. of N.Y.”, Vol. X, p.112

SERGEANT LAMB`S ACCOUNT OF HIS JOURNEY THROUGH THE WOODS FROM FORT
MILLER TO TICONDEROGA, TO EXPEDITE SUPPLIES FOR BURGOYNE`S ARMY
During our continuance at fort miller, the writer of this memoir was selected by his officers to return alone to ticonderoga, for the purpose of taking back some of our baggage which had been left there...The sending of a single soldier appeared the most advisable plan; and it was ordered by General Burgoyne, that he should, after arriving at Ticonderoga, follow the royal army with the baggage escorted by the recruits, and as many convalescents remaing at that post as could march with it...At Fort George, he was provided with a boat to take him across [sic] the lake to Ticonderoga...The author having arrived and completed his business at Ticonderoga, he accompanied the baggage over Lake George, attended by a number of seamen sent to work the bateaux on the Hudson River...In a short time the author had the gratification of conducting the stores and baggage for which he had been dispatched, in safety to the army, and to receive the thanks of his officers, for the manner in which he executed the orders confided to him. By this conveyance the forces obtained a month`s provisions, and a bridge of boats being constructed upon the Hudson, on the 13th or 14th September, 1777 the royal army crossed it and encamped on the Saratoga plain.``

Up here us hillbillies been still calling it Saratoga since 1765, not Saratoga Springs, a name some city-slicker don e made up for advertising propaganda to bring more city slickers to the races.


21 posted on 10/04/2011 9:45:17 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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