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Obama going "all in"
(Vanity) | 28 September 2011 | areukiddingme1

Posted on 09/28/2011 7:37:22 PM PDT by areukiddingme1

It appears that this administration and Republicans are going ahead with a request to have the Supreme Court rule on obamacare early in 2012.

You have to ask yourself, "why would this administration want to pursue a ruling on his signature piece of legislation," if...if they didn't have some sort of ace up their sleeve.

This administration is perceived as weak and losing steam -- Why, why would they push for this. We know why the Republicans are pushing for this, we have the votes and the legislation is un-Constitutional it will get defeated. We know this!

But why is this administration going along with this -- What are they up to.

Sun Tzu wrote; "All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him." ~ the Art of War


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare; obamacarescotus; scotusobamacare; teaparty; teapartyexpress; teapartyrebellion
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To: Longbow1969
Ruth G is dying of pancreas cancer and may not last long and Obama will not have the votes to replace her this election year . Its a race .
21 posted on 09/28/2011 9:07:31 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: areukiddingme1

22 posted on 09/28/2011 9:24:43 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Obama got mostly Ds and Fs all through college and law school. Keep repeating it.....)
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To: areukiddingme1
If he loses, he can run against the "right wing" Supreme Court.

Time basically ran out. If they'd appealed the 11th circuit to the full court they may have lost, giving the Supreme Court even more ammo.

If they don't appeal a Republican president might be left to appeal ObamaCare and they would rather control that appeal.

We pretty much know it'll be 5-4 one way or another.

23 posted on 09/28/2011 9:29:14 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins reelecton; GOP will find a way to lose.)
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To: skully

OR SCOTUS could just refuse to take it up...letting the 11th’s decisions stand that is the law is OK sans the part about having to buy insurance. That effectively tosses it back to Congress to fix, the money portion, or the law invalidates itself without funding.

SCOTUS is wary of taking cases that are so consequential and could impact other areas, like the SS Law for instance. This way they have it both ways..not on the hook and let the Congress either fix it or not.


24 posted on 09/28/2011 9:30:16 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: newzjunkey

That seems to be the soundest analysis of why they’re seeking S.Ct. review now.


25 posted on 09/28/2011 9:31:21 PM PDT by Oceander (Not voting is tantamount to voting for Obama)
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To: newzjunkey

I’m hoping 6-3, with Kennedy and Breyer joining the four Justices who actually believe in the Constitution of the United States of America.


26 posted on 09/28/2011 9:35:39 PM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: areukiddingme1
Even Obama now realizes he will lose the next election. So he wants the ruling to occur while he still has some control. We know he has no problem putting pressure on the court. IMHO.
27 posted on 09/28/2011 9:39:19 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Hoodat

They may think they can force Clarence Thomas to recuse himself, but it’s highly unlikely that will work, and it would only give them a 4-4 vote.


28 posted on 09/28/2011 9:47:49 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ncalburt

Would it be frowned upon to feel that your scenario is likely the best outcome for our country?


29 posted on 09/28/2011 9:56:44 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Do you still think they won’t have another retirement on the Supremes, allowing Obama to nominate a so-called “moderate”?

I don’t think we can afford to place our country’s future in the hands of anyone organization; we need to stop this cr@p in legislatures across the land, including Washington, D.C., then ensure that any new Supreme Court nominees are strict constructionist conservatives. Screw the goal of “balance” on the Court, which has taken us to the edge of this dangerous precipice.


30 posted on 09/28/2011 10:20:42 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: hinckley buzzard
They want an early ruling so that, if the court goes against them, they can cobble together a corrective piece before the elections. They have nothing to gain if they wait, because after the elections they won't even have the Senate.

Bingo. Well done.

31 posted on 09/28/2011 11:58:32 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: bt_dooftlook
What matters is that none of the 4 conservatives or the swing vote (Kennedy) retires or dies while Obama is still in office--I don't think any of them will voluntarily step down so we have to hope no unexpected deaths or incapacitations occur. If Obama seems headed for defeat next year, maybe one of the older leftists will retire to let him pick a young leftist as a replacement.

If he gets another four years he would have a much better chance of getting another chance to load the Court with hard-line leftists.

32 posted on 09/29/2011 6:52:32 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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