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1 posted on 09/18/2011 3:07:09 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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“there is no logical reason for her unfavorables”

What’s logic have to do with it? Dems hate her because they think she is a hillbilly idiot, Republicans dislike her because they think she has no chance of winning, women don’t trust her because they think she’s a phony.

It’s really not that hard to understand.


2 posted on 09/18/2011 3:11:49 PM PDT by magritte
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She didn’t do anything wrong. She just needs to present herself better.


3 posted on 09/18/2011 3:11:56 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Thank you, Bob!)
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“There is NOTHING on her”

It’s media manufactured. And they will do it over and over again until we make this subtle controlling propaganda a big issue. People need to SEE it.

They have got very good at propaganda because they use it in feedback with polling.


4 posted on 09/18/2011 3:12:10 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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I contend to you that her unfavoribles mean NOTHING.

Correct. Reagan was able to eliminate his unfavorables. Sarah would be able to as well. I find it laughable that so many people think Perry has things locked up 5 months before the first primary.

I think Sarah will jump in within the next two weeks.

7 posted on 09/18/2011 3:19:18 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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She carries an awfully heavy load on her shoulders, and her enemies are relentless. They’ve attacked her children, tried to burn down her church, conspired to bankrupt her and her family, accused her of complicity in mass murder, and with this week, pushed yet another series of outlandish smears to destroy her. It’s really become something of an epic battle of good versus evil, moreso than just a simple political story. Unfortunately, it appears evil has the upper-hand in this country. At least at this moment in time.


9 posted on 09/18/2011 3:19:43 PM PDT by greene66
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She lost a fair amount of support when she left the governorship in the middle of her term.


10 posted on 09/18/2011 3:20:03 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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It would not take much at all to turn those numbers inside out.

You would be wrong there. She runs in the middle of the pack for intensity even though she has near 100% name recognition. I can't see where there are people in the party that she can bring over to her side. It appears that she is stuck with the bad PR even if it is a wrong impression of her.


11 posted on 09/18/2011 3:22:06 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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I agree she does not deserve the negatives. The Libs had to try to destroy her because she scared them. Then the establishment republicans joined in for the same reason. She can and will turn it around if she gets in. We will see. If not we are in trouble. Lots of people on this site think Perry is a conservative and there is NO reason except they want to believe it. I love in Texas and voted for him for gov but only because the people he was running against were worse than he was and Governor of Texas is not in a position to do too much damage because of his limited power in our constitution. But being just a placeholder in the next cycle will be very bad. No way for Romney or Perry. We need someone who will really attempt to change the country back to what it once was.
12 posted on 09/18/2011 3:22:40 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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Call me crazy but if Sarah Palin runs the media will favor her because she is a better story.


13 posted on 09/18/2011 3:23:11 PM PDT by vicar7 ("Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" Sarah Palin)
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I would like to see her run...even if she does not win. She brings MUCH to the party, so to speak. She raises the bar for the Repubs. She motivates groups of people. She is a patriot that puts country and Constitution before self.

Whatever she decides to do, she is a positive, motivating force that scares the crap out of the far left DemonRATS.

It is all good. Regardless.


17 posted on 09/18/2011 3:27:45 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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Does not matter, she is not running....


18 posted on 09/18/2011 3:28:56 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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The whole country hates her, but without being in the race, she is third. HMMMMM, let me axe a question.

How dat happen?

Maybe they like her guns.


20 posted on 09/18/2011 3:30:07 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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The unfavorables are high for two reasons:

Right from the time she was announced as McCain's running mate, the mainstream liberal media feared Palin as another Ronald Reagan "game-changer" figure so they embarked on a campaign to "Dan Quayle" her.

They have succeeded in driving her negatives up by portraying her as a "not ready for prime time" floozy. Those SNL skits by Tina Fey were devastating. The majority of Americans continue to quote from that skit as though Palin herself said those words.

The second reason is that many Republicans do not like her either. When Palin was governor in Alaska, she went after corruption whether it was Democrats or Republicans. She is thus not a "team" player in their eyes. She is not one of the "good old boys club" in Republican circles.

That all said, I agree with you that her negatives are only an inch deep. Once she gets into the race and runs her campaign on her own terms, many Americans will see her for what she is - a citizen just like most of us who truly wants to advance the conservative cause and not just hold public office so that she can enrich herself through cronyism and power broking.

Now her negatives will always be high because she is a true conservative. Ronald Reagan always had hatred directed towards him by liberals because he was a real conservative who actually believed in what he said and acted accordingly.

21 posted on 09/18/2011 3:30:58 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (All my replies get posted to AttackWatch)
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Thanks se_ohio_young_conservative.


25 posted on 09/18/2011 3:35:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Obviously there is no logical reason for her unfavorables in the polls to be what they are.

There doesn't have to be a logical reason that you'd approve of for why voters view Palin extremely unfavorably.

I think Palin got very unfairly beat up in 2008. The media ripped her to shreds, exposed every weakness and otherwise sought to undermine her in every way imaginable.

Still, Palin had a way to recover from that. She could have kept her job as Governor, stayed out of the limelight, brushed up on all manner of issues she is not used to dealing with, given an occasional speech at non partisan events, etc. She needed to just go away for awhile, stay out of the spotlight, let time pass and come back stronger. Instead she chose to quit her gig as Governor, do silly RealityTV, hawk books, do hit and run appearances designed to grab attention away from actual candidates, and otherwise turned herself into what people view as a celebrity instead of a serious potential candidate. She's overexposed and people have Palin fatigue That is how she wrecked any chance she might have had to run a serious campaign in 2012. This is why I am left to assume she never had any intention to run in the first place.

29 posted on 09/18/2011 3:39:38 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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She quit her job. She has reasons for it, but she signed into law the bill that made her quit.

She is now bashing GOP primary candidates like Rick Perry and smearing them without proof.

She has had her own reality TV show, her daughter was on a popular TV show, and the Palins bought a mansion in Scottsdale, AZ.

She supported Juan McLame and Carly Fiorina over more conservative candidates in GOP primaries.

She is a well-paid member of the media.

What amazes me is how some people seem to think she is a serious candidate who can win an election, and not just a celebrity who likes her name in the news.

36 posted on 09/18/2011 3:52:46 PM PDT by Carling (Sarah Palin Supported TARP Before She Was Against It)
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I agree. I believe once Sarah starts her campaign and voters compare her side to side with the other candidates (even CC or Jeb if they run)that it will be obvious to most that she is the one needed at this time.


37 posted on 09/18/2011 3:54:06 PM PDT by GlockLady (Hit him again, Todd!)
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Obviously there is no logical reason for her unfavorables in the polls to be what they are

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I learned in HS that any argument that starts with "obviously" or "clearly" is on shaky ground and the one making the argument is trying to pre-empt any disagreement with his basic premise as being confused or murky.

40 posted on 09/18/2011 3:56:17 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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The unfavoribles you see in the polls are a result of some very shallow group think left over from the 2012

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Time-travelling group think?

44 posted on 09/18/2011 3:58:41 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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Can't you feel that index finger pointing you right in the face, tell you what is what? I thing we have the emergence of a republican algore campaign.
47 posted on 09/18/2011 4:02:04 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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