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Don't like Perry? How about promoting your candidates positives?
8/27/11 | Listenhillary

Posted on 08/27/2011 7:00:28 PM PDT by listenhillary

We are adults and most on FR are very intelligent persons. I think we can decide if a candidate is right for us.

How about stop repeating the same Gardasil, Texas corridor, immigration stories over and over and over. Most have seen them by now if they have been paying attention. Most have judged the stories and condemn Perry to hell for them or they think that a president just might have different priorities than a state governor.

Screaming at us in all caps isn't going to change any minds. FR isn't the entire universe of voters. We are a very small pool of voters. If you're hell bent on trashing a candidate, it is likely that your efforts are wasted trying to persuade FR posters to change their minds about a candidate. Start standing out by the road with a sign telling your horror stories, pestering people in restaurants and buying billboards and advertising in newspapers and TV. You will have much more impact.

If you insist on cherry picking the negatives, can we do the same to you reviewing every decision and action that you have taken in your life? How would that work out for you? Honestly showing everything you have done, could you withstand the scrutiny?

I realize some of you insist that we are making a horrible mistake. The primary isn't until next year. Stop screaming. OK?


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KEYWORDS: acorn; amnesty; ethanol; laraza; maldef; openborders; perry; perrytards; ricardo; rinofreeamerica; vanity
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To: Norm Lenhart
Do YOU not know what a source is? Are you saying that a CNN/fox whatever news clip on You Tube is not legit as it is not a ‘Source”

You are either a liar or have comprehension issues. Factual info is factual info whether it comes from FR or Walt Disney. You Tube has been the “Source” of many litigated cases so I think if the US courts consider it a legit ‘source’ of information in lawsuits, their definition is somewhat more credible than yours.

And don’t think we didn’t notice how you have steered the discussion away from Perry, his issues and your support of Illegals.


A US court would almost never allow anything from Youtube to be admitted as evidence in a case, both on the ground of unreliability as well as on the ground of hearsay.

BTW, who gave the following answers in an interview:

Q: Do you think they all should be deported?

A: There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

Q: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

A: No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

Q: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

A: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.


I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Perry.


361 posted on 08/27/2011 9:39:54 PM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: ScreamingFist

Maybe I should qualify: jobs Americans don’t want for the pay allowed. And if the pay was commensorate with the job requirements, I wouldn’t want to pay the $10 for an onion.


362 posted on 08/27/2011 9:40:21 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Norm Lenhart

To expect a perfect conservative candidate is not realistic. They all have flaws to deal with — but as W F Buckley used to say... elect the most conservative candidate that CAN win. In my mind that leaves out Paul, Bachman, Palin, Santorum, Huntsman, Gingrich, Pataki, and Cain... and leaves us with Perry and/or Romney. Of those two, I think Perry wins the most convincing-sounding conservative award and though perception isn’t always realty, Obama proved that style trumps substance expecially when an economy is in the crapper.
It won’t happen because there are too many in the race, but it would be good for the party and the general election if the candidates would follow the Gippers admonition and 11th commandment.


363 posted on 08/27/2011 9:40:21 PM PDT by Froggie (uires)
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To: ScreamingFist

Agree 100%.


364 posted on 08/27/2011 9:40:34 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DRey

Unreasoned? Are they unreasoned because... uhhh they’re true?!


365 posted on 08/27/2011 9:41:45 PM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: DRey

ILLEGAL, D. Do you comprehend the meaning of the word?

Immigrant does not equal ILLEGAL.


366 posted on 08/27/2011 9:41:47 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Niteflyr

I sorry ;)


367 posted on 08/27/2011 9:42:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Grizzled Bear
Sal used to be a FRiend, too, back around election time when Palin entered the race. I don't know how to go back to posts that old. I'm not a professional FReeper. But if it's possible, you might take a look. I remember you.

Anyway, see ya tonight. I'll try not scream like a girl when I see you.
368 posted on 08/27/2011 9:42:56 PM PDT by DRey
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To: hellbender

As Meatloaf would say, “you took the words right out of my mouth”...


369 posted on 08/27/2011 9:43:52 PM PDT by Born Conservative
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To: DRey
Excuse me while I laugh at the thought of a RINO Rick supporter attempting to correct me.

LMAO!!!

I am acutely aware of RINO Rick's record. And despite your best attempts I will continue to post it on these pages. Not your warped, marginalized and bastardized version but the actual record.

You're in the wrong forum, lib.

370 posted on 08/27/2011 9:43:52 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: buccaneer81

We just realize the extent of the problem. We are saturated with Mexicans. Even Palin said we can’t deport them all. The border must be secured and we must deal with the problem once it is. That’s all. They’re everywhere. Everywhere in Texas.


371 posted on 08/27/2011 9:44:45 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

LEGAL immigrants. I have an uncle who was Canadian, going to Boston University. He was drafted during the Korean War. His choice was to quit school and go back home or Parris Island. He chose the Marines and earned his citizenship. As a LEGAL immigrant.


372 posted on 08/27/2011 9:44:51 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DRey
Really? Do you want to hang Drywall for $20/day? Clean offices for $20/day?

Where can I get that rate? I have some large trees to be trimmed but every time I talk to the guys in old trucks who don't speak any English ...(only enough to tell me) they want $1000 to $1500 for three guys to do a half-days work...I don't do the Home Depot drive-by but I have NEVER talked to someone willing to work for $20 a day...these are the exaggerations usually used by liberals...

373 posted on 08/27/2011 9:45:38 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Oceander

I’ll give you a hint also. Palin also said they need to stand in line like every one else. Starting at the back of that VERY LONG line. The one that gets new LEGAL applicants added every day.


374 posted on 08/27/2011 9:45:44 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: DRey

Is English your first language? Eyes working okay? There is Rick Perry saying during a televised debate, that if G-d lets him live four more years, and he is elected governor, that he will not run for president, but will serve his entire term. Am I to believe that even YOU don’t consider rick perry a credible source? Oh wow. I am beginning to think you are crazy person. Can’t argue with crazy people because they’re, well, just crazy.


375 posted on 08/27/2011 9:45:52 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: DRey; Salamander
Sal used to be a FRiend, too, back around election time when Palin entered the race.

Salamander...do you know DRey?

376 posted on 08/27/2011 9:46:11 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: mylife

I’m with you. And although at this point, Herman isn’t a contender, there’s still a long time until the general election, and anything can happen. A perfect example is Jimmy Carter.


377 posted on 08/27/2011 9:46:17 PM PDT by Born Conservative
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To: DRey
Do you want to hang Drywall for $20/day? Clean offices for $20/day?

They're all making at least minimum wage, and you know it. Nobody accepts $2 an hour, not even illegals. Picking up cans pays more.

Stop shoveling your lies, illegal-lover.

378 posted on 08/27/2011 9:48:10 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DRey
Maybe I should qualify: jobs Americans don’t want for the pay allowed.

Once again you prove you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Americans can and will gladly do construction jobs. They want to but can't because an ILLEGAL alien occupies that position.

You really couldn't be more clueless. You should stick to talking about things you know, like what it means to you to have a candidate who has good hair.

379 posted on 08/27/2011 9:48:48 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: buccaneer81

I’m hurt, buck. Just when I thought we were becoming FRiends.


380 posted on 08/27/2011 9:49:07 PM PDT by DRey
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