Posted on 08/26/2011 1:12:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker
What about the heredity factor?
Any of the "ose> sugars will provide sustenance to the buggies as will the High Fructose Corn Syrup... they love it. We recommend diet soft drinks. I have no idea what insulin and Glucagon will do to them. I have asked them any questions so I have no idea what the ?? will do... :^)>
Alcohol based mouthwashes do dry things out for a while... however the mouth is very good at producing saliva quickly, so i am not sure that is going to have any long-term effect.
According to my doctor, the ONLY known chemical that will safely dissolve existing plaques is Sodium Hypochlorite - bleach. I am sure there are some acidic products that will also zap plaque, but I am not sure how much tooth would be left after you used them... Plax may prevent plaque formation, but I don't have any data to give you.
If you knew sushi, like we know sushi...
Thanks Swordmaker and grey_whiskers.
The brown bottle Hydrogen Peroxide is already pretty diluted... I am not certain how effective diluting it any further would be.
I don't think it will hurt. Just make sure you get the Baking Soda down into the gums... and get plenty of it in there.
I don't know for sure... Spirochetes curl into protective balls we call the spore form when threatened... and when the environment changes they open back up, hale and hearty again. It takes a LOT to kill them.
HP cannot break up plaque... only Sodium Hypochlorite can do that.
Thanks - I’m quite happy to use baking soda. One final question - do you have your patients use a regular brush or an electric brush? When I use the electric brush it seems like it gets under the gums better than the manual brush.
Google spirochetes and kefir-
Get live kefir grains and make your own at home with milk, coconut milk etc.
Ping for later
Outside of Michigan, filet of sole is not sushi. ;-)
Imho, baking soda is very abrasive. I don’t have veneers, but I don’t use it. I prefer gel tooth”paste”.
Thanks for that link. I appreciate it. The problems they are pointing out are related to the assumption it is infectious... it is but the time factor is over decades!
One of the major disconnects that has occurred in medicine is that MDs do not treat the mouth and dentists do not treat the body... and ne'er the twain shall meet. Yet the mouth is the major gateway to the body!
Here we have a situation where communication has broken down. Even Dr. Miklossy is not talking to the people who work with ORAL infections... yet she is observing ORAL spirochetes in places they should not be, in the brain, in the islets of Langerhans in the Pancreas, in the plaques in the heart, veins, and arteries, yet they have YET to open a dialogue with the dentists who are researching the SAME issues from the ORAL periodontal infection approach. Why? Because they are MEDICAL DOCTORS... and a tad arrogant who think that dentists cannot possibly have input on the issue. Dr. Miklossy hasn't even broached the subject of attacking the problem at the source of the infection, the mouth!
How do you see people get an infection from an infected person when the damage of infection takes 20-30 years to evince? You simply don't. Even making the CONNECTION to the toothpaste spread... with a 20-25 year trailing connection is difficult... but it's been done by the dentists looking... It's buried in noise.
Not that we know of... Most medical bonding agents were developed by dentists. However, all bonding agents will degrade over time. They will fail. So... some will fail quicker than other.
2) I have been on a low dose doxycycline for posterior stye (chalazion) off and on for a few years. I notice when I am on doxy, my mouth is much fresher in the morning. I assume it is attacking oral bacteria. Doxycycline is also used in Lymes therapy. Do you have any info on that?
Lyme's disease is also caused by a spirochete... and so it should kill spirochetes in the blood. Anything that kills bacteria in the mouth would help freshen the mouth by depleting the bacteria that poops in your mouth as the bad breath is caused by bad stuff they poop out... Baking soda will do that too... kill the bacterial colonies that do not have proper sanitation facilities to dispose of their waste products... have you smelled human cities that don't have sanitation sewers to remove poop? Not good. That's what bad breath is. poopy mouths. So yes, your doxy mouth will be fresher because you will have depopulated bug cities. You can help with the baking soda and peroxide mix daily. Keep your gums strong is best.
Thanks for the advice and info, Swordmaker. I think the kids will use it (they swim a lot and who knows how much of that water they actually ingest!). Good to know that it has to be made fresh (I was actually thinking of making batches weekly). Now, I know that isn’t good. You did a great job on this post.
Better than nothing... but not as good as the protocol I outlined.
it's present... About 10-15% of our patients have ZERO spirochetes in their mouths... some have ZERO bacteria in their mouths... and that without brushing or flossing. We have no idea how that happens or why.
Everyone else has them.
What is it about that minority... We don't even see DEAD bugs in their mouths! What sends the bugs running and screaming in fear from these people?
Yeah, but you're still a PDS troll. /thread-hijack>
Cheers!
Either... just keep it new. An old, worn out one is not much good. Also we strongly recommend a WaterPik for the Dakin's solution... it's high pressure can get into the gums and under bridges etc.
Your opinion is worthless... go with the science and the engineering. The MOHS Hardness scale puts Sodium Bicarbonate (Baking Soda) at 2.5... very soft... Talc is 1, Tooth Enamel is 5.
Gel tooth paste still has suspended abrasives in it... usually pumice.
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