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I checked to see if these videos had been posted on FR before, and the Milton Friedman video had been a couple of years ago, but it didn't generate much in the way of worthwhile discussion. I looked to see if the Thomas Sowell video had ever been posted, and I couldn't find a discussion thread about it. Both of these guys make very compelling cases for ending the war on drugs. They are not radical libertarians. Milton Friedman was a Republican pragmatist. Thomas Sowell has been a well-respected conservative for a long time.
1 posted on 08/23/2011 3:18:53 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy
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To: jazusamo

Feel free to ping the Thomas Sowell list on this if you’d like — up to you.


2 posted on 08/23/2011 3:20:23 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy
Here comes the legalize maryjane crowd.

Pot Heads could solve the debt problem!

3 posted on 08/23/2011 3:20:58 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

Only Nixon could go to China.


4 posted on 08/23/2011 3:24:38 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

“Republican pragmatist”

As opposed to what?


7 posted on 08/23/2011 3:25:22 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy
Law Encroachment will NEVER give up its cash cow/paramilitary training vehicle - asset seizure/paramilitary SWAT raids.
12 posted on 08/23/2011 3:31:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

I am a police officer and I am against the war on drugs.

Billions of taxpayer dollars are being spent on a endeavor that will never be won nor is there a plan to win it. It has become an industry unto itself, perpetually employing millions in government, the legal field, and all the supportive industries that used to not exist.

There have been more Constitutional challenges in the history of the document since the inception of the war on drugs and tens of thousands die every year because of the violence associated with it.

We cannot legislate morality and frankly, I am tired of American citizens, their animals and my fellow police officers being killed in this unending struggle.

Americans hate to lose fights. I know I do but this is a fight that cannot be won with the current methods. It would be cheaper, both in pecuniary and human capital, just to set up distribution points and issue it to abusers. No gang wars over sales turf, police raids will go back to what they should be for, going after the most violent in society, free up jail space so the most violent can be where they belong, instead of walking free.


16 posted on 08/23/2011 3:37:01 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Obama read Mao, Sarah read Sun Tzu)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

IBT Smokem if you gottem.....

(running for the popcorn now...)


24 posted on 08/23/2011 3:45:06 PM PDT by onona (conservative)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy; newgeezer

If you knew that legalizing weed would defund a million young black males who refuse to work, would you realize that this decision is a no brainer? A less important side effect would be the saving of billions of dollars in prison costs law enforcement and, dare I say it, increased government revenue.


26 posted on 08/23/2011 3:51:07 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Now we be president again !)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

As someone who is staunchly anti-drug-legalization, I have to admit that Sowell has some good arguments.

It says a lot about our society that legalization of narcotics could be seriously and reasonably considered “cutting our losses”. If he is indeed right on that point, are we better off with the druggies or the tyrants? That’s really the only choice that confronts us given the condition of our fellow citizens.

What a sad state of affairs.


31 posted on 08/23/2011 4:00:05 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: dcwusmc; Ken H

I thought you two might enjoy this thread.


53 posted on 08/23/2011 4:30:53 PM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy
Of course, the government's war on drugs should end. For us, it was lost the moment it started.

Any time a government declares a war on "_______" whatever that "_______" is, it ends up being a war against us, against we, the people.

The casualties will be our wealth, individual rights, freedom and liberty and the problem will not improve.

It's even worse when it's some kind of war against human nature.

With prohibition and now the war on drugs, it's just a matter of time before there are ever growing numbers of human casualties as well.

Prohibition should have taught us to not let our government wage these wars against us and against human nature.

The only winners are the government and the black market.

63 posted on 08/23/2011 4:45:04 PM PDT by GBA
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

The drug war will end when the boomer generation dies off. Conservatives from that era—the Nixon era—will never give it up. Drugs=hippies=counter-culture. Hence, it’s one part of the nanny state they just can’t give up. Once they’re all dead and gone, the memory of the 60s culture war will die with them, and we can move on.


73 posted on 08/23/2011 5:13:20 PM PDT by Huck (I don't believe there is just one God--humanity seems like the work of a committee to me.)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

Home viewing bookmark.


76 posted on 08/23/2011 5:17:14 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

If the drug is statistically safer than cigarettes or booze, you should legalize it unless you are prepared to begin a new Prohibition against cigarettes and booze. The assumed self righteousness of people who want their government approved addictions protected while threatening others using a less harmful, nonaddictive substance with no knock SWAT teams ready blow away your dog and you over a controlled vegetable, is hypocritical, reprehensible, And ludicrous in a so-called “land of the free”.


85 posted on 08/23/2011 6:27:55 PM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

Both great videos. I love Milton Friedman’s easy way of explaining things.


100 posted on 08/23/2011 8:50:01 PM PDT by RonBush
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