[ml/nj]

Actually, if you go back and read what Madison was talking about, you'll see it had nothing at all to do with "natural born Citizens."

Hey SCHMUCK!

Your comment seems to be a reply to my post at #108 rather than my post at #107 which quotes Joseph Story. Are you confused; or hoping to confuse?

If you look at my post at #108, you should see that I knew very well that the quote had to do with some Congressman named Smith, and I included the extra line which indicated that that was what the issue was for Madison at the time. But to assert that the Madison quote is irrelevant is disingenuous at best. I also provided a link to the larger context. I'm not the one here trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes.

ML/NJ

[rxsid]

Hey JERK....the debate I’m in...to which YOU interjected...is PRECISELY about Madison’s quote regarding William Smith.

[rxsid]

I'm not sure why you would include Story's comment there, to say that the "natural born Citizen" issue was not "black and white."

I'm going to assume you are not alleging that Story was equating "natural born Citizens" with naturalized citizens (which he goes on to decribe).

That quote, is simply refering to the OR part of the requirement. The "grandfather" clause.

"a citizen at the adoption of the constitution, and for fourteen years before his election"

which isn't in question (or at play) here.