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DEMS WILL WIN DEBT DEBATE; REPUBS WILL WIN ELECTION
Dick Morris ^ | 7/30/2011 | Dick Morris, Eileen McGann

Posted on 07/30/2011 1:15:39 PM PDT by Signalman

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To: gunnyg

Cannot recall who it was that insisted that insanity is chooding a non-existent lesser of evils over and over and over...


21 posted on 07/30/2011 1:43:04 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Signalman

I’ve been watching our “rulers” insist that the best way to get out of debt is to spend more.

I hope that most of my fellow Americans also saw that.


22 posted on 07/30/2011 1:46:19 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: GeronL
Yes, that book was a little off wasn’t it?

It's not too late! You can still get your copy from Amazon. It's currently number 1,099,112 in books ;)

http://www.amazon.com/Condi-vs-Hillary-Great-Presidential/dp/0060839139

23 posted on 07/30/2011 1:46:23 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: GeronL
I don’t think the GOP is losing the debt debate ...More like a GOP surrendering the debt debate

Nice...very nice.

The senators are going to be hard to get rid of.

They have access to massive campaign funds and are experts at attack ads. They have many allies in the mainstream media.

But the hardest thing to overcome is that they are tricky and they all stick together. I hate the game where they protect the senators who are up for re-election and let the ones who just got re-elected do the talking and voting. The Tea Party is on to it, but they are experts at fooling the general public.

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24 posted on 07/30/2011 1:47:00 PM PDT by bobk333
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To: bobk333

And our problem is that we don’t stick together. This was amply illustrated last week, when we could have gotten a few propaganda victories and moved the debate forward a bit...but instead, a few individuals, probably motivated by Ron Paul, wanted to grandstand. They ultimately ended up getting a meaningless but face-saving measure into it and then passing it on a Friday, well after we could have gotten any positive traction for doing anything about the problem...but after a week of the press depicting the GOP as a bunch of treacherous, back-biting loonies (which I must admit was how it seemed).

We have to have a plan and we ALL have to go for it. That’s the secret of Dem success.

And there should be no way that the traitors in the Senate, Snow, Collins and Scott (actually, I think there’s another one, but I don’t remember him/her) should be allowed to get away with their consistent voting for the Dems and still be allowed to call themselves Republicans.


25 posted on 07/30/2011 1:57:14 PM PDT by livius
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To: Signalman
Is Dick smoking crack again?
26 posted on 07/30/2011 2:07:09 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Signalman
The issue is not raising the debt ceiling. The issue is not default.

The issue is what the Legislative and Executive branches of government are going to do to avoid a down-rating of the USA credit from AAA.

In Europe, Greece is being told by the EU and IMF to sell its government owned railroads, airports, and other things and use the cash to pay down past debt. It is also being told to cut pension and benefits of government workers and to farm-out or outsource many government jobs.

Will the US Congress (House & Senate) finally get the picture that if they really want ObamaCare, maybe they have to sell wilderness areas and allow mining and oil exploration to gain lease money? Priorities need to be debated on basic spending and on how to get the economy going. Both parties are too busy rearranging the Titanic deckchairs associated with debt ceilings and false discussions of default than deal with the real issues.

How sad.

27 posted on 07/30/2011 2:07:16 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Signalman

The Republicans have won the debate. Before July, many unplugged Americans had no clue about what was the debt ceiling. Now they have nightmares about being trapped in a house and the flood waters (debt) having them pinned up on the ceiling with six inches of airspace. They have won the debate about the seriousness of the problem and they have worked for a solution while the DemonRATs have given no solution.

The next ideological battle is the idea that the Bush tax cuts do not work. While the economy has fallen deeper into dysfunction, we have still had the Bush tax cuts. Why have not the tax cuts worked? Could it be that the stimulus plan failed? Could it be that Keynesian economics fails every time it is tried? Once American understand this concept, American will have nightmares about DemonRATs spreading rat droppings all over the banquet table of prosperity.


28 posted on 07/30/2011 2:07:55 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: GeronL

GeronL,
The debt limit WILL be increased.
It will work til after the 2012 election.
NOTHING in Gub mint will truely be cut.
They ALL look like uncooth spoiled children.
But you think the pubbies are winning???


29 posted on 07/30/2011 2:10:03 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Don't trust the F.B.I.)
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To: bigbob
The best a party that controls only the House can hope for is to slow down and impede...

If that is what you believe that is what you get.

30 posted on 07/30/2011 2:12:17 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: cartoonistx

Why?
I’d rather the republicans ALL get beat in primaries by TEA Party Conservatives.
Bout freaken tired of dem and dem lite.


31 posted on 07/30/2011 2:12:27 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Don't trust the F.B.I.)
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To: Joe Boucher

I think conservatives are right and that people are seeing that more and more.

I could care less about the GOP at this point.


32 posted on 07/30/2011 2:26:03 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Snickering Hound

Ref. post #16.

You are a retarded ass.

This problem happened in 1996...15 years ago.

He and his wife made up and are doing just fine.

Grow up!!! We are now in 2011.


33 posted on 07/30/2011 2:44:44 PM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Signalman

Republicans will succeed in making a vast cut in federal spending”

Oh, really?


34 posted on 07/30/2011 2:51:06 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Signalman

don’t bet on it dick, gop is dissing the wrong people and T’ing them off. if you as a gov’t won’t keep your pledges to the Military which is only 1% of the population, you won’t keep it to the other 99%! you will note BOTH parties have their finger prints on this backroom deal.

Republican Budget Cuts 1.3 Million Veterans from VA Medical Care

http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.php/whats-new/2279-tom-philpott

Obama gutting the Military

http://townhall.com/columnists/luritadoan/2011/07/25/obamas_intent_to_gut_the_military

VFW email
Thank you for your inquiry. It’s true that military benefits have been targeted to help balance the budget, however, the attacks are actually coming from both sides of the aisle, with Republicans and Democrats both suggesting steep cuts to personnel programs.

The VFW is also very aware of the back room dealings attempting to address the debt crisis, and we’re working to ensure that the nation’s budget is not balanced on the backs of her veterans. Within the last week, the VFW has identified 10 specific benefits that have been targeted by Congress for cuts to help pay the nation’s bills after 10 years of war, which we call the “10 for 10” plan. With this in mind, we rolled out a call-to-action today to inform legislators that “10 for 10” is a morally unconscionable and unacceptable solution. Veterans paid for these benefits by making a commitment to our nation that 99 percent of Americans are unwilling to make. They have already sacrificed repeatedly over the last 10 years in an effort to preserve our nation’s ideals. It is simply wrong to ask for more. You can read the call-to-action and learn how to help in this effort at the link below:

THIS IS A MUST READ LIST OF CUTS sick Vets in the 7 & 8 group are targeted.

http://www.vfw.org/News-and-Events/Articles/STOP-CONGRESS-FROM-PASSING-AMERICA-S-DEBT-ONTO-VETERANS/


35 posted on 07/30/2011 3:13:33 PM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter who fails to keep faith with the Military, will NOT keep faith with YOU!)
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To: livius
"And there should be no way that the traitors in the Senate, Snow, Collins and Scott "

As an Alaskan I am offended that you did not include my RINO Senator in this list.

36 posted on 07/30/2011 3:48:34 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: strongbow

Ah, yes...Murkowski. Consider her added.

I knew there was somebody I was forgetting.


37 posted on 07/30/2011 4:54:19 PM PDT by livius
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To: Signalman

Dick is sometimes right on his thoughts. But wrong on predictions. He predicted that Christine O’Donnell would get elected and that the GOP would take the Senate. He lost and if I recall he had to pay a bet on The factor. But I quit watching that stuff.


38 posted on 07/30/2011 7:10:20 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Signalman
McConnell will exact some language whereby Obama has to ask for the additional borrowing authority but it will require a two-thirds vote to deny it to him.

Why the hell is this upside down...is McConnell retarded? Shouldn't it be a 2/3 vote to approve an increase?

NOTHING in Gub mint will truely be cut.

How about if we elect more TEApublicans and reboot to Y2K spending levels? (or better yet...1963)

39 posted on 07/31/2011 5:20:08 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: cartoonistx

“Galling, infuriating & most likely true! I just pray there’s a GOP left by November 2012!”

The GOP will continue to financially and morally bankrupt the country and grow government. They are the worst possible choice in 2012. Except for the Democrats.

God, protect us from the ever-compromising Republicans.


40 posted on 07/31/2011 5:25:48 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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