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To: Never A Dull Moment

You wrote:

“Because all valid documentation involves communications and records from and by governments, The Catholic Church, the Rabbis, the Rabbinate, and the people who suffered through it- which were overwhelmingly, the Jews.”

That is exactly the opposite of Netayahu’s thesis. He claims they were overwhelmingly CHRISTIANS. Not only were they Christians, but they wanted to “remove themselves from anything regarded as Jewish, especially in the field of religion.” (page xix - as I already noted). The contradiction between what you say and what Netayahu insists on was already made clear in my own statement: “Another interesting thing about BN’s book is how he undermines people in this very thread. People who claim the inquisition was founded to forcibly convert Jews must never have read BN’s book since - as he makes abundantly clear on page xix - that he is a confirmed believer that the Jewish converts to Christinaity were faithful and willing converts to Christianity who wanted to “remove themselves from anything regarded as Jewish, especially in the field of religion.””

And that’s one of the reasons why you can’t be taken seriously. You tout a book which actually contradicts your own assertions and you do so glibly apparently not even realizing how you just undermined your own claim.

“My own family among them. Those communications and records are still around to read. And anyone who has actually studied this subject, or studied a source who did, would not be posting the nonsense that you are.”

So, quotes from Netayahu which contradict you are now nonsense? Fascinating. Let me know when you and the author you claim to respect so much actually agree.


79 posted on 07/11/2011 9:08:56 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Sweden - one of the next Muslim countries)
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To: vladimir998

Netanyahu is referring to conversos........and you are skewing information. The point he was making is that these people, who were still Jew by lineage, and in secret, distanced themselves from fear for their lives and for their families. If they were Christians, they were by force, and intimidation..

There are many Spaniards today who light Shabbos candles on Friday night, and have no idea “why”- other than it is a tradition passed down to them. This is no different than the Jews in Muslim nations who were forced to convert to Islam at the point of a sword. Many of them today still retain Jewish traditions. The Pathans - the Taliban are a very likely example of this.

And, again......., if you are not fluent in Hebrew, Ladino, Arabic, Spanish, and Latin, or descended from those who went through this, then you have nothing to offer on this subject, other than revisionist garbage.

The bottom line is that the Spanish Inquisition forced the Jews from Spain, and other nations to leave, - because they were Jews.

And, they brutally tortured those Jews who could not leave, and refused to convert, as well as those who were forced to convert, but were suspected of being Jews in secret- because they were Jews.

This was done by the Catholic Church and the Crown. It was not done by Hindus. It was not done by Buddhists. And no, it was not by the common citizen- the people, although, if they knew right from wrong, they would have rose to put a stop to it.

It was done by the Catholic Church. And, they did this with incredibly sadistic devices that only souls of absolute evil could ever devise, approve of, and actually use on another human being.

That is a well documented truth you can never skew, revise, or run from. So, just deal with it, and learn from it so it will never happen again- to any group of people.


86 posted on 07/12/2011 1:20:29 AM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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