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Tour de France *** 2011 *** [LIVE THREAD]
Various ^ | July 2, 2011 | Various

Posted on 07/01/2011 7:58:26 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy



TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: itscadelsworld; letour; oopers; tdf; tourdefrance
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To: Baynative

Unbelievable day today! Wow!! I was pacing so hard, my heart was pounding watching those last 2 K’s!

I am fine with any of these top 4 or 5 taking it in Paris, what heart they all showed & very, very happy for Andy today! Great to see Tommy Danielson doing so well, too.


381 posted on 07/21/2011 9:14:30 AM PDT by twyn1
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To: green iguana
"Voeckler gets to keep the yellow jersey for at least one more day." Amazing performance, but he owes some thanks to Cadell Evans for that last climb.

Evans wants to stay close for the time trial on Saturday. Tomorrow has the potential to be an historic event.

382 posted on 07/21/2011 9:15:21 AM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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To: Baynative

That TT is pretty short tho’...

How much time do you think a very good TTer like Evans could put into a decent TTer like Schleck over a 26 mile course?


383 posted on 07/21/2011 9:21:50 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Baynative

Champions have to rise to the occasion.


384 posted on 07/21/2011 9:41:19 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: green iguana; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; ...
Right now Andy has only 57 seconds on Evans. That is something he can take back with no trouble in 26 miles. Evans is much better against the clock. Of course the variable still in the way is stage 19 tomorrow. Alpe D-Huez brings out special emotions in riders because of it's history and just to make things interesting they have reversed the direction for tomorrow and will traverse the Galibier once again at the half way point.



Voekler will be riding his heart out in the TT and can probably best Schleck, too. His challenge will be one more super performance in the climbs tomorrow. He is going to need support and Pierre Rolland who did a great job today seems to be his only team member who is up to the task of going with the moves.

385 posted on 07/21/2011 9:50:50 AM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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To: Vision
"Champions have to rise to the occasion."

I can't wait for the next two stages! I'm not taking any calls until 9:00AM PST

;-}

386 posted on 07/21/2011 10:02:16 AM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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To: twyn1
"I was pacing so hard..."

me too. I just knew Cadell was going to go and take Voekler with him. Oh well. Tomorrow may still be HUGE.

387 posted on 07/21/2011 10:09:09 AM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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To: Ready4Freddy

7. CONTADOR Alberto 1 SAXO BANK SUNGARD 79h 38’ 50” + 04’ 44”

Looks like someone needs to put in an order for Spanish ‘beef’ - STAT!


388 posted on 07/21/2011 10:09:26 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Baynative

Am looking at the results, seems like Andy was amazing today.


389 posted on 07/21/2011 10:12:48 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Baynative

Must be nice.


390 posted on 07/21/2011 10:14:41 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Baynative

Thanks for the insight, Bay.


391 posted on 07/21/2011 10:19:06 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: commish

My bet is you’ll not be seeing AC ride the Giro next year.


392 posted on 07/21/2011 10:22:22 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: Vision
"Must be nice."

LOL - it isn't that hard. My phone isn't ringing much lately, anyway.

393 posted on 07/21/2011 10:34:50 AM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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To: Baynative

Today was an epic stage. I cannot believe the other GC favorites, which at this point is Evans and Voekler, let him get away in a break. Contador will have to ride the TT of his life to even make the podium and even that’s a stretch. He must have peaked for the Giro thinking he wasn’t going to be allowed to ride the Tour. There’s also something to be said for the fact that he may not be willing to pay the price in training any more. We see it all the time with champions that are dominant for a couple of years, make millions, and aren’t willing to train as hard as they once did.

I’m just glad that we have something compelling for the first time since Contador won his first Tour.


394 posted on 07/21/2011 11:30:58 AM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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To: Baynative

with you on that one Bay. Voekler is a beast and has totally gained my respect.

i remember seeing him 10 years ago on his first tour when he put up a battle for the jersey on bastille day. think i got that right.

man has always been a battler, glad he is getting the recognition in his own country. must be great. i wouldnt mind if he took GC, although i still think its a toss up cadel, schleck.


395 posted on 07/21/2011 3:12:50 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; ...
I am just loving the hell out of this tour and can't wait for tomorrow. The scenarios are delicious. Here's my take on the next two days:

I'm still thinking anyone in the top 9 which is down to Tom Danielson has the potential to take this race. Danielson is on the Garmin squad that won the Team TT and Vaughters says he can hammer. He has stayed with the bunch through the mountains so far, so who knows what he might be able to do at Grenoble if he somehow gets away tomorrow and takes a bite out of his 7 minute deficit?

#9 - Danielson is already well known in the peloton, but it just might be that the guard will be down or an attack from him might not be recognized as quick as necessary. That happening is about a 500:1 shot. But, if lightning strikes he could gain some minutes and use the TT to end up on the podium. If he is in the main group at the base of Alpe D-Huez and I'm his team director, I'm telling him to go whenever he sees an opening. There is nothing to lose and no glory in being #9.

#8 - No one is going to let Sammy Sanchez get away even though he is 5:20 back, because he is also dangerous in the TT. A dangerous side effect of Sanchez is that neither he nor Contador have any teammates with gas left in their tanks, but they are both Spaniards and will work together. The question would be whether Sanchez would chase Contador if he were to get a bit of a jump. I think that since Contador is defending a title he would be compelled to chase down Sanchez. But, Sanchez knows that.

#7 Contador has a few options still on the table. He can climb and he can time trial. I don't think he can make up 4 minutes in the TT. So, he is going to have to look for an opportunity and that is going to be very hard with Frank on his wheel everywhere he goes. In addition to being shadowed, there is a psychological impact that comes with knowing a rider who is 3:00 minutes clear of him is on his wheel saving energy and just waiting for him to move.

#6 Ivan Basso - UH-oh. This guy can climb and TT. He is a talented rider with a lot of smarts. He will be in the mix of all that transpires, both as a spoiler and as a potential podium finisher. He has a minute to the good on Contador and is only two minutes down from Evans and Frank Schleck. He is an aggressive rider; ok, frequent trouble maker and will be waiting for a chance to surprise the group. He has a wild card in Damiano Cunego, an Italian countryman who came out of no where and sits at the same time at 3:46 back.

#5 Damiano Cunego is a threat to be an upsetter in several ways. He is a top level climber who can sprint and has been working hard on his TT capabilities. Though he is a countryman and possibly an instant ally for Basso, he is a wild child. When he was just a 22 yr old kid riding for Saeco, he won the tour of Italy in which he sprinted away from his team leader Gilberto Simoni to win the 18th stage after Simoni's solo breakaway faltered. He may have matured a bit, but if he gets a chance he will hold no loyalty to anyone in this bunch.

#4 Cadell Evans may have expended a lot of his reserves today. We'll soon find out. He may be sitting in the best position of all and may also be the odds on favorite at this point. If he can ride the wheels of the Schelcks, which he proved capable of this week, he has the luxury of doing just the in order to set himself up for the TT on Saturday.

#3 Frank
#2 Andy - what do we need to know at this point? Same team, brothers, climbers and podium contenders. They will be looking to break Voekler, take revenge on Contador for last year's attack during Andy's chain drop and get a gap on Evans before the TT. If I'm their director, I'm going to have them attack and counter attack multiple times. I don't think they can gamble the podium on Evans, and Voekler both showing up weak for the TT. They probably won't mess around until Alpe-D-Huez and if they do, or if Andy gets away it will have to be an all out effort. If he were to separate himself from Basso and Contador, but end up dragging Evans with him he will stop working and the decision will be up to Cadell on whether to ride another hard day climbing or go back to the pack and wait for the race of truth.

#1 Although Cadell looks poised to take yellow from where I sit, I think Tommy is also in a great place. If he can stay with the bunch like he did today he may be able to conserve some of his reserves and use all he has on Saturday.

If a couple of riders way down in the GC go away the group will have to let them go. Wasting themselves to chance a break isn't worth it with the podium two days away. Think of this; the whole bunch could stay together for most of the day while some lower placed guys go for the stage. This could be the hardest day any of these guys have spent this year only to accomplish nothing more than not going backwards.

Whatever happens tomorrow, I'll be watching and pacing the floor tomorrow come 5:30 AM PST!!!

396 posted on 07/21/2011 4:57:42 PM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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To: Baynative

bay:

door 2 please. schleks to lose

voelk has swum the ocean but sadly will die on the beach

cadel...hmmm..maybe but unless he kills it in TT, no.


397 posted on 07/21/2011 7:37:13 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

Hold on bee - you’ve eliminated all the contenders. Who are you pickin’?


398 posted on 07/21/2011 8:27:53 PM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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To: Baynative

yah my post was garbled. i meant the race is for the schleks to lose, meaning i think andy will win probably. then maybe cadel, althoough TV remains my sentimental fave


399 posted on 07/21/2011 9:04:27 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

I think Andy needs to go into the TT with at least 1:30 on Cadell. If that happens, you could be making some money. Another variable is how they start in the TT. If Andy turns out to be the guy ahead of Cadell and it is a chase to close the gap and overcome him, Cadell has an advantage in my opinion. If the order is interrupted by Frank, it might not be so influential.


400 posted on 07/21/2011 9:23:14 PM PDT by Baynative (Are you a Free Republic monthly donor yet? If so, thanks. If not, why?)
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