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To: enduserindy
*Another note on viruses, they are out there for Macs. Macs get hacked alot too. I understand a compromised Mac is harder to fix due to its nature. If anyone has a comment on that besides more mines better than yours I’d truly like to know.

Sorry, you are wrong... On several levels. I've been a cross platform computer consultant for 28 years and I can assure you that most of what you've posted on Macs in this thread is just plain myth. You demonstrate you really know very little about Macs.

The only true viruses that have infected Macs were for Apple Mac OS 9 and under which ran Macs prior to 2001 before the introduction of OSX. . . for an OS that is totally unrelated to modern Macs except for being published by the same company. The two OSes, Apple MacOS 9 and under and Apple Mac OSX share no code, no architecture, or even theory of operation. They only superficially share a user interface.

Your claim that "Macs get hacked alot" is false to reality. Yes, there are a few well publicized Mac hack events... But they are well publicized BECAUSE it is news when it happens.

Macs are UNIX under the hood, an industrial strength OS that has undergone a 44 year open-source trial by fire, exposed to every attack vector many, many hackers could think of... And patched as they found weaknesses. Finding new avenues of attack is far from easy. The only successful new ones have been Trojans, social engineering of the user and just one that requires the user to be running as an administrator user that does not require an administrator password, in which case it WILL start the installer, but still requires the user to physically install it by clicking continue... Three times, ignoring warnings.

As for "compromised Macs being harder to fix?" You're joking, right? Most Mac users can handle most Mac problems themselves. There is no registry to get compromised or corrupted. A clean install of the OS can be done in 45 minutes or less without wiping the hard drive or losing any data. There is never any need to defrag or optimize the disk. Deleting a broken or compromised application is as easy as dragging it to the Trash Can and emptying the Trash (one DOES need administrator access to do that).

Incidentally, there is MORE software that will run on Macs than will run on your PCs. My Mac can run all Mac OSX software, all Windows software (two virtual machines, one Windows7, one WindowsXP), and one variety of Linux, as well as all UNIX software... all simultaneously. If I want, there are other virtual machines I can run on my Mac on demand for other OSes (and have) including MS-DOS, THEOS, C-64 software, Apple Mac OS9 software, Atari software, Amiga-OS, etc. These run within virtual windows under OSX... sandboxed.

As for your claim of speed, several reviews from recent Magazines have claimed that the fastest Windows PCs they have ever tested have been Macs.

90 posted on 06/29/2011 1:28:58 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone. See swordmaker....macbots really do post ga)
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To: Swordmaker

Isn’t Linux a version of Unix? I think I’ve been clear on my Linux thoughts.
Wasn’t there a huge hack for OSX through Skype? (To mention just one.)
After some research yesterday I found its not that its harder to fix a compromised machine but rather the attitude of Mac users (can’t happen to me) that is the issue. So there I stand corrected.
More programs for Mac, don’t think so and if emulators count my SUSE wins.
So windows runs faster than OSX? On OSX’s designed machine? Why did Mac move to the X86 platform? The highest rated Mac I find is a 2 cpu 6 core each @2.93 ghtz. PC can do better.
I know that everytime a buddy with a mac wants to upgrade it he can’t outside of a few minor things. When I build a pc I decide what cpu/ram/video I want and then buy the mobo that uses them at the bottom of its compatibility list. Mac doesn’t, to be fair neither do almost all big box PC makers. So to put that in perspective the pc I’m on right now started life with an amd athlon 2.o ghtz single core and without anything changed in the os or mobo is a dual core 3.0 ghtz. Finaly a clarifier, my knowledge of macs is hardware and its similarities to linux. I never said its a bad os just that I wouldn’t want the Mac hardware. I know I can get around the Mac hardware requirement if I wanted to but with Suse why would I.


108 posted on 06/29/2011 10:00:57 AM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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