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To: for-q-clinton; zeugma
And you been told before Swordmaker, that OSX has lost 4 years in a row at a hacking competition.

The rules are the rules, regardless of what YOU want them to be, and the hackers CHOOSE to go after the most desirable target... the Mac first. That is documented. You are dancing to try and make the reason another reason. There is no other. The order of attack is what it is, the choices are the contestants'. That is what happened. I can't and you can't change that. If they went after Windows, then Windows would have lost four years in a row first. They didn't. End of story.

It means NOTHING except which computer is the most desirable prize to win among expert crackers. Every time they've wanted the Mac laptop.

That is the ONLY thing one can learn from this exercise. Especially when the winner says explicitly that his exploit could have been applied to ANY of the target computers!

You keep raising this canard and it is ONLY a strawman argument because it is easily refuted by the facts. The facts state that every single contestant decided to target the Mac. The first contestant in a contest where the contestant had months to prepare, composed of expert crackers with pre-prepared exploits, in all of the contests won the Mac... SO WHAT?! Windows fell just as quickly when they turned their attention to it, when the next hacker, no longer able to try and win the Mac (it was no longer a target!), pulled out his second line attack, but also rans don't make headlines, especially for the umpteenth thousand crack of a holey, multiple times cracked system. No one was surprised.

112 posted on 06/29/2011 11:03:52 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone. See swordmaker....macbots really do post ga)
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To: Swordmaker
The rules are the rules, regardless of what YOU want them to be, and the hackers CHOOSE to go after the most desirable target... the Mac first. That is documented.

Ok now to use your same point against you. The reason windwos machines are attacked more often on the Internet is htey are the most deisrable target.

Hey we agree. Both are about equally secure or insecure, the only difference is which one is more desirable. In competition hackers will want the overpriced item, in the real world hackers will want the most users to get the most bang for their buck.

Now we finally agree.

117 posted on 06/29/2011 11:34:52 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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