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To: Species8472

Being a dolt here - caustic soda?


13 posted on 06/26/2011 12:26:13 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: svcw

Better known as lye, worse known as sodium hydroxide; it’s been used from old time to do laundry. I suppose there are things to be careful of, and it may eventually corrode the fibers of clothing, but very sure it works.


24 posted on 06/26/2011 12:41:51 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: svcw
Caustic soda, NaOH, is also known as lye and chemically is known as sodium hydroxide. Lye, in various forms and preparations, has been used for centuries as a cleaning agent. Think "Beverly Hillbillies" and Granny's lye soap, for a whimsical instance.

However, given the composition of some modern fabrics (polyesters, for example), check with your local dry cleaner BEFORE attempting to use lye in a washer. Might want to check with the washer manufacturer, too, to learn the correct amount to use per load.

39 posted on 06/26/2011 1:05:49 PM PDT by SAJ (Zerobama -- a phony and a prick, therefore a dildo)
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To: svcw; Species8472

Caustic soda is sodium hydroxide (NaOH), aka lye.

I wouldn’t add it to a clothes washer, and maybe not to a dishwasher. The reason it prevents film on glass in a dishwasher is because in hot water it attacks the silica and changes it to sodium silicate, which is water soluble. In other words, it actually dissolves a little of the glass each time by reacting with it. (It prevents film from building up on a substrate by removing the top layer of the substrate). The dissolution won’t occur perfectly evenly over time, so if used too aggressively the glass eventually will gain a slightly rough texture and after a long enough time it will have a slightly frosted appearance that is permanent. Sodium hydroxide does this even to the high grade borosilicate glass used in chemistry laboratories.

As for the clothes, sodium hydroxide will also break most natural fibers down over time via alkaline hydrolysis. If you’ve ever had a cotton shirt develop a hole in it over time from bleaching, the weakening of the fibers that leads to the holes isn’t caused by the sodium hypochlorite (which releases chlorine) in the bleach so much as from the sodium hydroxide added to bleach to stabilize the hypochlorite.

So yes, caustic soda is good for keeping glass looking good in the short term, and excellent for getting grease and oil out of clothes, but it damages both in the long term. It matters less with the glass because it removes very, very little each cycle, but it’ll damage natural fabrics pretty reliably in the long term.


54 posted on 06/26/2011 1:33:46 PM PDT by verum ago (A liberal's mind is like a single action revolver with a bobbed hammer)
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To: svcw

Caustic soda = sodium hydroxide = drain cleaner


102 posted on 06/26/2011 5:11:44 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: svcw

Caustic soda, chemical name: Sodium hydroxide - NaOH


103 posted on 06/26/2011 6:06:41 PM PDT by reg45
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Caustic Soda: Chemical Name - Sodium Hydroxide - NaOH

It raises the alkalinity of the wash so that it does a better job of cutting grease.

Phosphates work better though, because the phosphate ion does a better job of complexing minerals which deposit on the items being cleaned.

137 posted on 03/27/2012 2:28:24 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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