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To: Flamenco Lady
I have no real recipe for the three bean chili, I just guesstimate it. I use a can of pintos, a can of garbanzos, and can of black beans. I make the chili sauce using a chili mix with some chili powder added and/or cummin. A large can of diced tomatos, whatever kind of meat, always lots of onions diced large. As you can see, I am not one to consider chili to be an art form, canned beans and chili mix are OK with me. It is just a quick easy pot of meals, I make this in double order most of the time, although there are only two of us; we freeze leftovers in sandwich size containers for single lunches later. If I am wanting hot dog chili sauce, I use a finer ground beef and use no beans or tomatos.

I was not aware of using vinegar in dry beans until recently when we moved to Texas and we tried some complimentary beans in a restaurant. They were sour! yuck! My wife explained that sometimes people add vinegar to beans to soften them faster. I had never heard that at the time, but I have cooked all forms of dry beans for many years, especially large limas and red beans. And I put almost any bean over a bed of hot steamy rice. While working south of NewOrleans after Katrina, I picked up on something that was new to me, white beans over rice, on Wednesdays. Cooked and seasoned just like red beans except they used navy or great northern beans, and over a bed of rice, and make them on Wed. instead of Mon.

93 posted on 05/29/2011 5:04:07 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15:1-5 Believe it!)
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To: rightly_dividing

We have about the same recipe or guesstimate for making chili, except that I have used all different kinds of beans, depending on what I had in the cupboard: chili, pinto, kidney, black, small red, and more. I actually like to get Carrol Shelby Chili seasoning the best, because it comes with a packet of masa flour to thicken the chili with in the end. I haven’t been able to find masa flour, at the grocery stores here, so if I don’t buy the Carrol Shelby seasoning, I have to use a different thickener and the chili doesn’t taste quite the same to me without it, although spelt flour is a close second to the masa flour. I sometimes add diced green, yellow, or red pepper to my chili as well for a change of pace.

I did not like the sour taste of beans with vinegar either. Most people I know that do like it, add it at the end of the cooking time as a flavor enhancer. Some people claim that it also helps to get rid of the gas in the beans, but I have also heard that the claim is hogwash. I am certainly not going to try it, since I didn’t like the vinegar taste in my mother in law’s beans at all. Her beans never tasted fully cooked to me, even though she would presoak them and cook them for far longer than I have ever had to cook my beans. I suspect that her use of vinegar and or salt too soon in the cooking process, may be the reason my husband thought black beans were bitter and too hard a bean for his liking. He did comment that the black beans in my chili last week did not seem bitter or hard and I used a can of black beans, since I had them in my pantry.

He only would eat pinto beans or navy beans and baked beans when we were first married, but by that point in time my mother in law was using only canned beans, so the beans were already soft when she cooked them.

I was taught by my mother that you should never add salt or an acid like vinegar, citrus juice, or tomatoes to your beans or lentils until after they are soft because it inhibits and slows the cooking process, and can actually prevent your beans from ever getting completely soft, no matter how long you cook them. I know from experience after getting stuck with undercooked beans or lentils, that adding salt or tomatoes can stop the cooking process. I neglected to follow my mother’s cooking rules a few times, by trying to speed up the bean preparation by adding ingredients too soon in the cooking process, or following a new recipe that didn’t follow her rules. I guess some of us like myself have to learn the hard way, what not to do. I now fully admit, my mother was right! LOL! Fortunately, I learned that lesson before I even dated my husband! LOL!

Through the years I have been able to expand my husband’s palate to include vegetables such as zucchini, raw broccoli and sometimes very lightly sauteed or steamed, raw cauliflower (with dip only) or cooked Au Gratin style, and cabbage cooked any way; legumes including just about everything but black beans; grains such as barley, bulgar wheat, brown rice, cous cous, and ocassionally fried polenta; and much more. I am still working on black beans, dark greens such as spinach, swiss chard, etc., and some kinds of seafood, but I hope to someday get him to like those foods too!

We do not eat beans every day, but we do have them more frequently now because they are budget friendly and add additional protein to a meal, so I can sometimes get by with less meat per person. This is especially true with soups. Since meat is usually the most expensive part of any meal, by adding other cheaper proteins such as eggs and legumes I can reduce the meat in it and thus the over all cost of the meal, but still have a well balanced meal for my family.


95 posted on 05/29/2011 7:26:35 AM PDT by Flamenco Lady
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To: rightly_dividing

This is my chili recipe.

Beef Chili

2 pounds ground beef, or cut into 1/2 cubes
Salt and freshly ground black pepper ( salt optional)
1 T ground cumin
1 large onion, diced
5 cloves garlic, minced
1 T chipotle pepper puree
3 T chili powder
1 T arbol chili powder
1 T ancho chili powder
1/2 - 1 tsp cayenne powder
2 (28oz) cans tomato sauce
3 cans rotel
2 cans beans (pinto and kidney?)
2 tsp sugar or vinegar to cut acidity (I use the sugar)

In a Dutch oven or soup kettle, season the beef with salt and pepper, and saute until browned. Sprinkle with cumin and stir well. Add the onion and garlic, cook until soft. Add the remaining ingredients, bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer for 1 hour, or until the beef is tender. Remove from heat and adjust seasonings, if needed.


101 posted on 05/29/2011 1:41:20 PM PDT by Netizen
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