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Battle royale: Prehistoric cave bears versus cave lions
BBC ^ | May 23, 2011 | Matt Walker

Posted on 05/23/2011 5:23:23 PM PDT by decimon

Sleeping on its bed, a giant cave bear opens one eye, alert to any intruder.

It stands, lifting its massive 400kg frame and bares its teeth.

In front of it is an equally sized cave lion; a giant predatory cat, and the cave bear's mortal enemy.

Only one will survive, while the bones of the fallen will litter the cave floor for millennia.

New evidence reveals how such titanic struggles likely took place in caves across central Europe in the Upper Pleistocene epoch, which ended around 11,500 years ago.

While excavating caves in Germany and Romania, scientists have unearthed the bones of large numbers of cave bears, a now extinct species that stood bigger than today's grizzly bears.

The bears' bones, claw marks they left in the caves in which they lived, and even the beds they slept on, paint the best picture yet of how these magnificent creatures once lived.

But more than that, researchers have also uncovered the petrified bones of the cave bear's foe, the Pleistocene cave lion.

More than 25% bigger than today's African lions, the cave lion was itself an impressive predator, one that may have specialised in hunting cave bears for food.

Details of the two massive animals' remarkable battles have been released by palaeontologist Dr Cajus Diedrich of PaleoLogic, based in Halle, Germany.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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To: onona
"Vulcan, Jungle Island’s resident liger, is 8 years old and weighs 900 lbs...

...Our liger, Hercules, was a result of an accident rather than deliberate breeding or artificial insemination. Eating about 20 pounds of meat every day, he stands at over 11 feet tall and weighs more than 900 lbs."

http://www.jungleisland.com/about_mammals.php

Nice pussy?

21 posted on 05/23/2011 6:14:19 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Mr Rogers

That’s just DAYUM !!!


22 posted on 05/23/2011 6:18:07 PM PDT by onona (Fullly aware that I may be totally)
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To: Mr Rogers

That’s some “accident” !


23 posted on 05/23/2011 6:19:10 PM PDT by onona (Fullly aware that I may be totally)
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To: decimon
Wasn't therea Jurassic fight episode about the American versions? The American Lion (Panthera leo atrox/Panthera Atrox) vs Short-faced bear (Arctodus simus)

Arctodus simus, now there's and animal for all those liberals who think that machine guns aren't hunting tools.

24 posted on 05/23/2011 6:38:23 PM PDT by rmlew (No Blood for Sarkozy's re-election and Union for the Mediterranean)
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To: xsmommy; tioga; Slip18; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Xenalyte; secret garden; Tax-chick; Monkey Face; ...
It stands, lifting its massive 400kg frame and bares its teeth.

In front of it is an equally sized cave lion; a giant predatory cat, and the cave bear’s mortal enemy.

Only one will survive, while the bones of the fallen will litter the cave floor for millennia.

Er, uhm, well no. Not exactly.

See, “neither” of these two huge impressive beasts will survive. Instead, a tender, thin-skinned, un-clawed, tiny-toothed, naked tiny mammal that can't even feed itself until age 10 survived, and is still doing quire well actually. Funny that a 2-year old baby can kill a giant cave bear.

When that cave bear faces an angry mommy.

25 posted on 05/23/2011 6:41:55 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
No problem with me. The bears hibernate and probably that is when the Lions went from cave to cave for dinner. If you and I have a fight and I wait until you are sleeping, I win.
26 posted on 05/23/2011 6:43:26 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
...doing quire well...

quire: one twentieth of a ream

Word of the day. ;-)

I've had bosses that were quire boys. They liked to ream in increments.

27 posted on 05/23/2011 6:51:41 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon; onona

Yeah, the African lion is the largest of the African cats I believe, but the tiger is the largest of the (non-extinct) cats, and the saber-tooth was a relative. One of the probable relatives of the cave lion (if not the same thing, but separated by the Bering Strait a loooong time ago) is the north American “panther” (such as the Florida Panther, which is a puma). But hey, a lot I know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Lion

[snip] The American lion (Panthera atrox) also known as the North American lion or American cave lion, is an extinct feline of the family Felidae, endemic to North America during the Pleistocene epoch (1.8 mya to 11,000 years ago), existing for approximately 1.79 million years. While it was once considered a subspecies of lion closely related to the Eurasian cave lion (Panthera leo spelaea), later study showed that it was not in fact a true lion and can not be assigned to any modern species of cat. [/snip]

I should point out that the “later study” was morphological, not via DNA at all.

http://www.carnivoreconservation.org/portal/p_detail.php?recordid=15010
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1096-0031.2008.00226.x/full

http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/TreeofLife?q=Felidae%0D%0A%95+&sa=Google+the+Tree+of+Life

Proailurus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proailurus

Machairodontinae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machairodontinae


28 posted on 05/23/2011 7:08:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Yes, it’s funny that all those animals are gone, while I’m still here, reproducing all over the landscape, “Honey, there’s a bug in the kitchen. If you want supper, would you find it another home?”


29 posted on 05/23/2011 7:09:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Just what this family needs: more smugness.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ll bear with your story if you’re not lion.


30 posted on 05/23/2011 7:14:54 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

We ocelot of our fellow FReepers when we get started like this.


31 posted on 05/23/2011 7:39:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv
We ocelot of our fellow FReepers...

Pure envy.


U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service

32 posted on 05/23/2011 8:29:45 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

funny.


33 posted on 05/23/2011 9:00:46 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Mr. Blond; decimon
That elk seems a bit undersized for the age of mega-fauna.

Nah. That's the forerunner to the dik-dik - don'cha know!       ;^)

34 posted on 05/23/2011 10:34:09 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: decimon

Yeah but the cave Lions and cave Bears got their butts kicked by the cave Packers.


35 posted on 05/24/2011 6:15:49 PM PDT by BJClinton ("Worse" technically is "change".)
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