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To: Abd al-Rahiim

I find John Jay to be persuasive myself [post 262].


264 posted on 05/04/2011 8:06:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
You're interpreting Jay's letter in light of ONE WAY to translate de Vattel's French. But Chief Justice Waite, Justice Gray, and Vice Chancellor Sandford all found "resort" in "common law," not de Vattel. Moreover, Chief Justice Marshall's reference to de Vattel in The Venus (1814) DID NOT USE the phrase "natural-born citizen" but rather "The natives, or indigenes,..."

If you interpret Jay's letter in light of "common law," you see that he's referring to "natural-born" as in, you had to be born here. Chief Justice Waite himself said that at "common law," there was no doubt that if you were BORN HERE to CITIZEN PARENTS, then you were a "natural-born citizen" but there was some doubt as to whether you needed to have citizen parents.

268 posted on 05/04/2011 8:46:59 AM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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