Posted on 04/27/2011 9:05:08 PM PDT by remaxagnt
100% proof this document is a fraud!
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
bfl
Drat!
The only thing that can be done now is for Donald to hire forensic experts to come in and make this presentation on TV. The only problem with that is it would be political suicide for Trump. You are calling the president a fraud and a liar. He had better be able to prove beyond a doubt that he is right. If we were in court, this is done every day, but in the political realm, I don’t know how it would ever work.
Why would they change the 1 in the serial number. And why would they change the date? What would it accomplish?
Hi...ANSWER ONE QUESTION, anyone.
THE STATE OF HAWAII HAS AUTHENTICATED THIS. THEREFORE HOW CAN IT BE A FAKE?
“The last “1” is different than the other 1’s. “
The outline artifacts of the original number are visible, could be a 2 or a 7. See it?
“Fake, fake, fake...”
I can understand where you’re coming from on this, but based on what can already be documented I think you’re underestimating what these people are willing to do.
The Selective Service Administration forged a draft registration for Obama, which was recognized because the automatic date stamp had ‘08 rather than ‘80 as they tried to present it as.
Somebody in a supervisory position in the Passport Office specifically disabled the security protocols 3 different times to allow 3 breaches of Obama’s passport file, the last of which was shortly after the exif data for the Factcheck photos says they were taken.
The Social Security Administration’s SSN Verification website has confirmed that the CT (where neither Obama nor his parents ever lived) SSN Obama used on his last tax return was never issued to Obama.
The HDOH has indirectly confirmed in 2 different ways that the Factcheck COLB - AND THIS LONG-FORM BC - are both forgeries, because the “date filed” and BC# are not compatible, and because the BC was amended in 2006 and must be noted on a genuine BC from their office but isn’t on either the COLB or (now) long-form.
I’ll soon be showing that the HDOH has manipulated their 1960-64 birth index book to include sealed and legally nonvalid BC’s.
And as for Obama’s handlers - Doug Hagmann has evidence/proof that Soros, Axelrod, and Rahm Emanuel got Obama’s lawyer to threaten Fox and 3 other media companies with FCC and anti-monopoly annihilation if they reported on this issue - a threat which the media heads passed on to their on-air personalities by saying and/or implying that if they or anybody on their shows brought up the eligibility issue, their career was definitely over and their life and family were iffy. When Hagmann interviewed the personalities involved they were fearful for their lives.
So that is the degree of lawlessness we have.
At this point I would not put anything past them, and I say that after dealing with the HDOH much more intimately than I ever wanted to have to do. So many of these people have committed so many crimes and/or broken so many non-criminal laws that at this point they have to cover Obama’s you-know-what in order to cover their own. It’s self-preservation now. People commit crimes to cover up crimes. What do they have to lose?
You probably thought it was from a bound book because Fukino said it was. The point that sometimes gets lost is that government officials have made statements and if the evidence doesn’t fit with their statements then something is wrong. And none of the stories match up with each other, with the laws or rules, or with the evidence offered to us peons.
They wonder why we won’t just believe what we’re told. Well.... maybe that’s because we can say it doesn’t match reality. Instead of calling us crazy for that, maybe they should try being actually credible.
MuBarak is an idiot to have released this Copy of Date Points on a Wednesday!
What moron doesnt know that if you want a story to die you release it over the weekend or on a holiday?
Further, it may have been enough to convince Lieutenant Lakin to continue following orders of deployment as he had done so many times, honorably, as a decorated veteran would do and does.
But no... He let an honorable man hang in the wind, under a cloud of doubt and ruin his career and life. For What?
This settles nothing and I want to see the one he found among his mothers belongings when she passed in 1995, as well the one that is sealed in his admissions for kindergarten and preschool.
Barak, if this settles it for you then you screwed a fine man and you should be ashamed!
You have no honor.
Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a Birth Certificate.
The so called COLB has many flaws with it:
The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.
Those were most certainly BCs and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process. I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. Its a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and Im left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my fathers part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my fathers imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents. From Dreams From My Father (Pg. 26 last paragraph) So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate? He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mothers belongings. Why wouldnt he just slap that one up, for all the world to see? It seemed important that he found a document that is called a Birth Certificate and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.
Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC. That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that fishy event.
Where is the distinct DOH seal, on either version? The HDOH Administrative Rules and Rules of Practice and Procedure both say that the authenticating marks for certificates are the registrar’s signature and a raised seal. So where is the raised seal?
There is a circular outline on the green copy but it isn’t distinctive. There is no sign of a seal at all on the white copy.
The BC was sent by a Hawaii administrator. What more do you need? The state has authenticated it. What more do you need?
REgarding the natural born citizenship deal, I think it coms down to this. TEchnically, he might not be, based on his mother being too young at the time of his birth and his father a Kenyan.
His parents divorce early on when he’s young. So in essence we have a United States Senator who would be denied the opportunity to run for President because his mother was too young at the time of his birth.
I think, looking now at the fact that he was born here, that the argument is weak and petty. What’s more at this time to get him out of office on these grounds would require impeachment.
Let’s drop all this and move on. Obama has played his ace in the hole card, i.e. his BC, that he was hoping to save until 2012
“His parents divorce early on when hes young. So in essence we have a United States Senator who would be denied the opportunity to run for President because his mother was too young at the time of his birth.”
Hunh?
Obviously, his father’s foreign stature has had a huge influence on the life of “Barack Hussein Obama jr.” So, this poor little ‘victim’ of denied opportunity, is ineligible under our Constitution for a good reason.
Oh, for goodness sake. It appears to me that the one # was preprinted on the form & the date was a hand stamp used to complete the filling out of the form. Nothing “fishy” with that!
Amazing thanks for the ping Lucy.
What got me on the video is the guy was really confident its a fraud.
The Thorndyke twins have the sama hospital name as the Obama BC.
Thanks so much for providing these links simply fascinating.
All the previous reasons for refusing to release his supposed LFBC contradict this blatant forgery.
Something embarrassing on it. Yeah right, embarrassing in the fact it doesn't exist.
Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu:
"Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government."
"Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961."
"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."
For some reason Brian Schatz was not satisfied with what he saw:
"Hawaii Revised Statute 11-113(c)(1)(B) specifically requires that this sworn application from each state party authority contains explicit language stating that all candidates are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution in order for the Chief Elections Officer to approve the candidate for placement on the states presidential ballot." "
The DPH, chaired by Brian Schatz, refused to include legally required language, per HRS 11-113(c)(1)(B), within the state partys Official Certification of Nomination stating that Obama was Constitutionally eligible to serve as President.
" The Democrat Party of Hawaii refused to acknowledge that Barack Obama was legally qualified to serve as president under the provisions of U.S. Constitution and, therefore, the DPH refused to provide legal certification allowing the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer to approve the placement of Barack Obama on the Hawaiian presidential ballot."
Abercrombie's conclusions of his exhaustive quest for Obama's Birth Certificate:
Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.
"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.
The fact is, it NEVER EXISTED. Just a note from Toots that her wayward daughter had a son on vacation and would soon fill out the paperwork. She never did.
bttt
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