[mjbarkl]

Vendome wrote:

> So explain to me your reasoning for wanting to repeal the 2nd again?

First off, I want the Right to Keep and Bear Arms repealed, of which the Second Amendment is only one leg of that 3-legged right.

Stripped to its most basic, reasons for wanting repeal:

1. We are shooting too many people in this country..

2. There are too many guns, too easy access.

3. Since Heller and McDonald, all gun control in this country is unconstitutional despite the bone tossed to the gun control people by Justice Scalia in Heller.

4. New and different forms of gun control are required to cut down the inventory and access problems and those cannot be imposed without first repealing the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Of course, this is not an “explain”; how far into that do you want me to go? Best wishes, —Mike

[little jeremiah]

I’m on board!! “We” are shooting too many people in this country! And chopping, stabbing, bludgeoning, poisoning, suffocating and duct taping!

I’m for banning baseball bats, bricks, knives longer than a 2” pen knife, hatchets, machetes, poison and duct tape!

Right on. You are so compassionate, touches my heart.

And maybe everyone should wear mandatory mittens. Hard to strangle people that way. They could be fitted with buzzers that go off in police stations if anyone tries to take them off.

Oh, another great idea to prevent violence - video cams in every home! Just think of how many crimes would be prevented.

Are you running for office? I’ll vote for you!

[dirtboy]

Ping, see post 54, we got a live one over here.

[rollo tomasi]

Another evil creature peddling central planning who think personnel responsibility and self control are beyond the individual's grasp.

Count yourself as another useful idiot:



By the way,



Have a nice day, try to understand history a lot more and useless authoritarian theories a lot less.

By the way, why do you consider yourself a liberal democrat? Is it because you want to tax and spend "liberally"? Be honest, because you are so far away from being a classical liberal of the Enlightenment it is not even funny. May you find a flood of useful idiots like yourself, to guide your way to victory. Tyranny be your guide, but beware of men who wish to be free.

[50mm]

A gun-grabbing chew toy for your enjoyment.

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[Arrowhead1952]

First off, I want the Right to Keep and Bear Arms repealed, of which the Second Amendment is only one leg of that 3-legged right.

Why is it that all democrats hate the Constitution? That is what our country was founded on and we need it now more than ever.

1. We are shooting too many people in this country..

Hey guess what? My guns have been in my house for the last 30+ years and not one has ever jumped up and shot anyone. If we bring back and USE the death penalty for killers, maybe they will get a clue.

[Joe Brower]

In reference to your post #54, Mr. Barkley, I heartily recommend that you run on your prescribed platform. If that doesn't ensure your never attaining office, your myriad non-sequiturs certainly will.

[dragonblustar]

1. We are shooting too many people in this country..

Liberals are always shooting their mouths off, why don't we ban open mouthed liberals?

[Vendome]

LOL

Buh Bye...

[wheresmyusa]

As has been said by many a FReeper you may come and take my firearms whenever you feel frisky enough, and i promise to hand them over to you. Ammo first.

Looking forward to your crushing defeat,

W

[paul51]

you’re on to something but you just don’t go far enough. We should repeal the whole constitution. The idea that we can have 300 million people walking around thinking and doing for themselves is ridiculous. Let’s be honest, it’s a formula for chaos and trouble. We elect a gov’t. Shouldn’t we be able to count on them to organize our lives, make the difficult decisions for us and take care of us in the most efficient way possible?

[50mm]

Your x-ray:

[Noumenon]

Dear Mr. Barkley,

Your Utopian dream is troubled by one little problem: enforcement. Let’s see where that goes. My suggestion is that you live the courage of your convictions. Be the first one to attempt that in my neighborhood.

Best regards,

Ward Dorrity

[Las Vegas Ron]

Well let me say this about that:

Since my 2nd Amendment rights guarantee you'll keep your grubby little tyrannical hands off of all of my other rights, I have two words for you Mike:

Molon Labe....though I know you don't have the guts to come and do it yourself.

[OCCASparky]

IBTZ!!! Enjoy your (short) stay at FR.

[Smokin' Joe]

First off, I want the Right to Keep and Bear Arms repealed...

To what authority are you going to appeal to do this?

Rights are such that whether or not they are codified or enshrined in the writings of humans, they exist. The Second Amendment doesn't grant the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, it merely places it off limits to any Government following our Constitution.

We are shooting too many people in this country.

We, who?

I am not actively engaged in the shooting of people in this country, though some criminals may well be. The only other groups of people left "shooting people" (assuming you meant intentionally) are police and persons engaged in self-defense.

One could actually make the argument that if increasing numbers of people are being shot by police and persons defending themselves, perhaps 'we' haven't shot enough for the message to get through, or perhaps the courts haven't dealt with persons with prior offenses harshly enough and released them to commit more crimes.

Aside from a scattering of accidental/negligent discharges, criminal activity would account for the rest of shootings, so maybe it is the criminals who need to be curbed, not the persons defending against them.

There are too many guns, too easy access.

Who says "too many", and by what standard? Who says access is "easy"?

What is next? Your lawn is too large? Your car is too big? Your House? Your Bank account?

New and different forms of gun control are required to cut down the inventory and access problems and those cannot be imposed without first repealing the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

Oh, now I see. You think scratching out a few lines on a piece of parchament is going to get 80,000,000+ people to just willingly surrender their property, their right to self defense and self-determination?

My, you are seriously deluded.

[absolootezer0]

have you any idea how many laws you’d be breaking to implement that plan?

also, would you exempt law enforcement?

[Emperor Palpatine]

You sir, are unworthy of the title American citizen.

People of your ilk belong in Cuba or North Korea.

Even though I do not live in California, I will give significant sums of money to ensure your defeat. And I’m quite positive many other people who truly love and understand the Constitution will join me.

[Darksheare]

Without guns, there would be no America.
You would disarm the Founders, and leave our people open to invasion, and worse.
One specific founder said an armed society is a polite society.
I believe the founders over you any day.
And guess what, everywhere that guns have been outright banned has seen an explosion in crime.
Because the criminals know they are safe.
How about this, you put your money where your mouth is, put up a HUGE sign in your yard proclaiming to ALL that you don’t have guns, and will not ever have one.
Let me know how that turns out for you.

[Darksheare]

Let’s apply your diseased thinking to other guaranteed rights:

Stripped to its most basic reason to repeal YOUR first amendment rights:

1.) too many people being offended.

2.) too much hate speech.

3.) New and different forms of speech control are required to cut down on hate speech and hate crimes, and this cannot be imposed with the First Amendment still standing.

Of course, this is not an “explain”; how far into that do you want me to go?

[philman_36]

Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth. George Washington

Do you even understand the purpose of the Second Amendment?
The main purpose is to enable "the People" to, in the vernacular of today, bitch slap the government upside its head if it got too overbearing!
It would be kind of hard to bitch slap somebody if you had no arms and hands, wouldn't it.

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. George Washington
Unless, of course, you think government is a benign entity.