Posted on 04/12/2011 12:15:18 PM PDT by Yaelle
Today Rush ended his show with this:
"It looks like Donald Trump is the true illegal alien around here. [pause] After all, he is doing the work most Americans would not do."
Bada bing!
(Rush also said Trump would be on the show later this week.)
Thanks Fantasywriter. I have run into the type before.
LOL
Seriously though, I believe OholyO has legit documents in the archives at HDOH. I further believe that what ever is being held by HDOH does NOT confirm OholyO as a Natural Born Citizen.
I do not believe anything can do that. The son of a British man cannot be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States unless that man had become a citizen of the United States before his child was born.
Obama should be in prison.
I'm not sure I understand your question. Why would posting on DU undermine its authenticity?
After it was pointed out that it lacked a raised seal,
The raised seal wasn't visible because the original image was from a scan, and indentations on paper often don't get picked up by scanners. Later photographs taken by factcheck staff reveal a clear raised seal.
one was photo shopped onto the same DU image.
There is no proof of any photoshopping, the claims of certain anonymous bloggers with phony Ph.D.'s notwithstanding.
If it were filed less than 30 days after the claimed date of birth, then it wouldn't be a late filing, by definition.
There is merely a witness signature.
Plus that of the parents. But that's true of any birth registration, even for a hospital birth.
There you go again. Any explanation provided by the moonbat Obots is the one you’ll repeat. If conservatives say the original COLB image posted on the most moonbatty of all moonbat sites lacks a raised seal, and the Obot apologists say it was there, just not see-able, who will curiosity believe? Why, the Obot defenders Every Single Time.
I’ve seen the images posted on FR. The second one was photoshpped off the first. But if you want to buy the far leftist Obamabot line, you go for it. Whatever fits your political outlook is what you’ll believe anyway, right?
Funny, there is no conservative in the world who wouldn’t know the issue with DU. It is a blithering, drooling, spittle flecked hate site. If an actual POTUS had an authentic birth document, he/she would not release it on the most unhinged partisan site on the Net.
But you and DU? A great fit! What’s wrong with DU? Nothing, from curiosity’s perspective, obviously. The moonbattier the merrrier, right?
I do wonder what HI has on file. It is a crime that in a Republic citizens are kicked around the way we have been, for merely daring to ask basic questions about our ruler. I believe the truth will come out. When it does, Obama, the MSM and the Dems will be damaged goods for many years to come.
LOL -
Where are those links?
Oh and FYI a regular Long Form has the signature of a licensed professional on it. That is completely lacking in a late form. There is no licensed professional signature on a Late registration, and in fact there was no requirement for the baby in question to even be presented, and no one to present the child to. A late Registration was frequently used to commit citizenship fraud because of just how easy it was to do.
“When it does, Obama, the MSM and the Dems will be damaged goods for many years to come.” I tend to agree. Perhaps this is also why they resist it so fanatically. They know its the dirt for the top of their political graves.
Have you read the theory that he was born Steve Dunham? If so, what do you think of it? It sounds entirely plausible to me, and would explain so much.
But of course, what we need is access to the docs. Guesswork, even well educated guesswork, is fine but facts are better.
Go, Trump! Ferret out that info, and share it with the world.
As for your question, yes, I believe it is true. The MSM is fighting for their very existence. They will not go down easily, but once the truth comes out, they will go down.
I have heard that one before. Like so many other things about Obama, who the heck knows. I can’t give it any credibility nor can I debunk it.
I don't know where you are getting your information from, but it's completely wrong. If you read the Hawaii Vital Statistics regualtions, in the pdf I linked to above, you'll see that the phrase "long form" and "short form" aren't categories of birth registration.
Instead, you will find all birth registrations fall into three categories: standard, late, and delayed. The only thing that distinguishes a standard registration and a late registration is the timing of a filing.
A standard birth registration is filed within 30 days of birth, though the law instructs filing within 7 days. There appears to be a grace period. A late registration is filed between 30 days and one year after birth.
A standard registration includes a signature of a licensed medical professional when such a professional was attending the birth. In cases where no such professional was attending the birth, it has the signature of whoever whitnessed said birth. A late registration also includes a physicians signature if it was attended by a physician.
Again, it's all there in the regulations I linked to above.
I see nothing in the regulations to indicate that a standard birth registration not attended by a physician or other medical professional has any less validity or is any less a "long form" than one attended by a physician, provided it was filed in a timely manner (i.e. within seven days of birth).
A late Registration was frequently used to commit citizenship fraud because of just how easy it was to do.
I doubt it. Got any evidence for that claim?
Obama’s forged, photoshopped COLB looks nothing like that. As Howie Carr joked the other day, Obama’s looks more like the form one of his pugs gets, after it completes obedience school. Lol.
As for curiosity, nothing will matter. All the evidence in the world, no matter how impeccable, will be dismissed unless it aligns with Barry’s convoluted, weird and factually-challenged birth narrative. Sad but true.
Any further comments on the BC matter? “I’m sorry - you were right” will suffice.
You better hope it’s a forgery. If it’s real, you guy is TOAST:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?page=284#284
Who is my guy? Pawlenty? I haven’t even figured out which R I want to support yet, so please feel free to tell me.
Okay, here’s the truth. I have no idea who you are. I exchange with a lot of Freepers. Evidently you’re one of them. You didn’t stick in my mind. If Obama is not your guy, why are you crowing about this supposed COLB? If you’re not crowing, why are you bothering me? Have I bothered you lately???
You were accusing me a closet leftist because I thought this BC issue was a ruse. Well, I knew you were wrong on the former, and now you’ve been proven wrong on the latter. So, excuse me while I gloat a little bit. Have a good day.
The BC issue has crippled Obama, and if this new release is real, Obama is ruined. You’re delighted about that, I’m sure.
(page 246)
And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President. “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,” &c. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not.
(pg 250)
6. Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever were the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen.
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/Lynch_v_Clarke_1844_ocr.pdf
Even Alexander Hamilton, acknowledged the change of eligibility requirement for POTUS in Federalist #68, where he also acknowledges the national security reason for the requirement of natural born Citizen instead of his original draft of "born a Citizen":
"Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?"
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