with proton energies at 0.04 eV?
This would normally take about 14 MeV.
With a secret catalyst, of course.
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Posted on 04/09/2011 2:06:23 PM PDT by Windflier
Here you go
http://www.angewandtebiologischeneuemedizin.com/en/index.php?title=Focardi-Rossi_Energy-Catalyzer
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroldragon
http://www.motherboard.tv/2011/1/25/is-cold-fusion-real-not-yet
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/15/rossi-discovery-what-to-say/
I read the whole page at this link you provided:
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/15/rossi-discovery-what-to-say/
and there isn't anything like universal condemnation being expressed by the scientists and researchers (as well as laymen) who have commented there.
If anything, I'd say the group mood is one of cautious skepticism, with a dose of bright optimism thrown in. I believe there's only one really negative comment on the whole page.
I urge you to read the whole thing. Most of the people commenting there, are very up on the science involved, and thoroughly familiar with the history of this, and similar developments.
I don't personally have enough information yet to know whether I'm looking at a real breakthrough or not. I remain open to seeing where this all leads.
Understand, you are seeing an interview of Europeans, what American’s interpretation as encouragement and hopeful optimism is actually just a polite slam.
Europeans just can’t seem to bring themselves to slam people directly and don’t see a need to respond to someone writing an article mentioning their name and might have left the impression with the reader that they endorse it.
“...an alleged compact fusion reactor based on an assumed Cold Fusion technology...” and “...So far, attempts to replicate the experiment independently failed...”
Note: alleged and assumed.
Look - I’m all for cold fusion if it can be duplicated.
It is called ‘proof’ when a process can be recreated over and over again with similar or identical results.
So far, it ain’t lookin’ good.
Well, the proof will be in the pudding, as they say.
This thing is either going to work, or it's not. Someone out there has become convinced enough to invest millions of euros in building these devices, so I guess we'll just have to see whether they work, or if the investors have been taken for an expensive ride.
In the meantime, this country needs to drill the hell out of our vast mineral resources.
This guy will either disappear or claim that there is a safety issue that he has to resolve that will delay his plans for rolling out the commercial reactor in November.
Things just don’t go from the lab to commercial applications for energy generation this quickly.
People have noted, he doesn’t even have permits and his patent applications have been rejected.
There is a sucker born every min, if he got millions already, he would have disappeared.
Something is making this guy stay on this con, maybe someone is dumb enough to get conned, but not dumb enough to allow himself to be totally separated from his money.
Bandini is the word........... ;-)
That goes for skeptics, too.
Listen, the thing will either pan out, or it won't. From everything I've read, the jury's still out. I'm willing to keep an eye on this, and hope for the best.
Still think as long as they refuse to let someone test it for radiation, it is a big flaming red stop sign.
Without that, it is such a fraud, all we are doing is waiting for the final confirmation.
This has about the same certainty of being a frog as claiming pigs can fly.
Some more news today:
Andrea Rossi’s Journal of Nuclear Physics website is proving to be an interesting source of information these days. Mr. Rossi doesn’t seem to be reluctant to feed little snippets of information about his plans and activities.
An interesting piece of information was posted on April 7th.
“Today I am in the USA factory of Leonardo Corporation where I signed a contract of tremendous importance. As soon as I will be allowed to announce it, believe me, it will be extremely important”.
Later on, in the same thread he state simply, “Yesterday we signed a very important contract in the USA.”
Leonardo Corporation is Rossi’s own company and they have a factory in Florida where the E-cats are being built. No details are provided, but it sounds like he is eager to share more when he is allowed to. But we can now have fun speculating on what might be going on!
Update
Since the above post there has been additional discussion on Rossi’s site regarding the discussion in the same thread.
Q: Are you able to tell us any more regarding the nature of the contract you mentioned was signed in the USA yesterday? Can you perhaps indicate whether this was a contract from a customer to manufacture supply e-cats or if this was with a supplier for materials? Any information would be appreciated as there is growing excitement around the commercial rollout of your technology.
Rossi: The Customer of us is a kind of Customer you need to have a written authorization of to talk about him. In due time we will make a joint communication. We will manufacture together a network of plants to sell the energy. I am very happy for this, because I am extremely indebted with the USA, where I got my rebirth, and we will make here new jobs and a useful work, so I will give back part of the help I got, as it is my duty. I always give back what I get, turned into energy. It’s my job.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
FURTHER UPDATE:
When asked if the above announcement would be made in days, weeks, months or years, Rossi answered, “Months”
With a secret catalyst, of course.
Sorry, source for above
THX THX.
Thanks.
This is kinda amazing. If it’s a scam then what is the scam and how does he expect to get away with it? Should be interesting in any case.
How is this any different?
"Standard nuclear processes" or fission reactions are powered by transuranic elements like uranium or plutonium (fuel) which are naturally unstable and emit neutrons. Under the proper conditions the neutrons emitted strike the nucleus of other fuel atoms, causing them to split into two lighter elemental atoms, releasing a fraction of the binding energy that held the heavier nucleus together as heat and emitting still more neutrons. You can see how this continuing flux of neutrons may become self sustaining and provide a steady power output. Under the proper conditions the neutron flux can grow exponentially 2 become 4 become 8 become 16 ... until all have split, releasing a great deal of energy in a very short time. This uncontrolled chain reaction is a nuclear bomb.
Fusion, as opposed to fission, is the forcing of two light elemental nuclei (hydrogen) together to form a heavier nucleus (helium). It takes a great deal of energy to force two hydrogen nuclei together (remember that "binding energy we got when a heavy element split? well you have to put that in to fuse two nuclei together). Once the helium nucleus is formed (fused) it is slightly lighter in mass then the two hydrogen nuclei that made it up. This loss of mass is released as energy. The amount released is governed by Einstein's famous E = M x C2 where E is energy, M is the amount of mass converted, and C is the speed of light squared. The actual mass converted is very small but the speed of light is a very large number and it is "squared" meaning that even a tiny bit of mass can yield a very large amount of energy.
Fusion reactions occur in nature, it is the process that powers the sun and all of the other stars in the heavens. The huge mass of a star generates an enormous gravity field which crushes the hydrogen nuclei together providing the binding energy to form helium and release the relativistic energy from the lost mass. We mimic the sun on earth by using an fission bomb to compress hydrogen to that same point of fusion, liberating the vast energy of the hydrogen bomb. We literally bring a piece of the sun down to earth.
The goal of "cold fusion" is to bring about the fusion of hydrogen without depending on enormous gravity or the heat and pressure of a fission bomb. The article is basically about an inventor's claim to have found such a method using "catalysts". Catalysts are used in chemistry to encourage a reaction between two or more reactants to form a third substance. Catalysts do not enter into the reaction itself, nor do they become part of the end product. Chemical reactions are not nuclear in nature, hydrogen burned in oxygen produces water made up of two hydrogen atoms bonded to one oxygen atom as a water molecule. Water molecules may be broken apart to yield back the separate hydrogen and oxygen atoms. The energies involved with chemical reactions are no where near providing the binding energy needed for fusion reactions.
In a nut shell, The man's claim needs close scrutiny, I for one do not believe he has found the holly grail of cold fusion. Why do we care? Because the worlds oceans are two thirds hydrogen, with cold fusion we would have solved the "green energy" problem for eternity (or close enough as not to matter).
Regards,
GtG
Yea, he is really indebted to us, after all we made his diploma for him for all of 50 bucks.
This dumb guy doesn’t even know that if he is doing business in Florida he needs a business license and it is a public record:
haha
Got his phone number in the states and everything
http://www.sunbiz.org/COR/2010/1115/84053446.Tif
Principal Address
1331 LINCOLN RD., APT 505
MIAMI BEACH FL 33139
Mailing Address
1331 LINCOLN RD., APT 505
MIAMI BEACH FL 33139
Registered Agent Name & Address
ROSSI, ANDREA
1331 LINCOLN RD., APT 505
MIAMI BEACH FL 33139
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title PD
ROSSI, ANDREA
1331 LINCOLN RD., APT 505
MIAMI BEACH FL 33139
Title SD
TRAVIS, JAMES R
8 TOWN FARM ROAD
NEW BOSOTON NH 03070
?? Can’t spell Boston correctly??????
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=opera&hs=g5N&pwst=1&rls=en&channel=suggest&nfpr=1&q=8+TOWN+FARM+ROAD+NEW+BOSTON+NH+03070&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=8+Town+Farm+Rd,+New+Boston,+NH+03070&gl=us&ei=YPCgTZe6JI_PiAKHh-WJAw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA
??? Empty Lot at this address ??? Looks like a dead drop.
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Only thing to add, neutrons are very high energy, they can go through 8 feet of lead.
Lead just doesn’t work with neutrons, they have too much energy.
If you can dampen the energy of neutrons, like adding speed bumps, then the lead will finally stop it.
But this experiment is so small, they either have hardly no neutrons or none at all. I believe none at all myself.
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